Ghost of Groat Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 Has GRRM made any sort of a nod to Howl's Moving Castle being in any way related to House Reed? BTW can anyone who knows the books better than I, post up the book/chapters wherein Greywater Watch is described? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyaStoned Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 Bran chapters in CoK feature some chatter about it between Bran and Meera. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kienn Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 Yea I've assumed it's a reference, GRRM references lots of other artists/works obliquely like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CreativeName Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 The wiki page has some footnotes as chapter references. Regarding Howl's Moving Castle: Yeah, it's a tip of the hat. I guess it's just too obvious to be a complete coincidence. George does that kind of thing all the time; you'll find numerous references to the works of Jack Vance, Roger Zelazny etc. ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayura Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 From the WOIAF app: "GWW is the seat of house Reed in the Neck, just south of Moat Cailin. It is built on a crannog - a man-made floating island - and it is said that ravens cannot find GW because of the way it moves around" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Roberto Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 It had completely bypassed me that Howl and Howland share a name, of sorts. Yes, I think this is as clear a reference as it can get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dany Girl Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 Am I the only one who pictured it built on the back of a giant turtle like the one in the Swamps of Sadness in the Neverending Story? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight Of Winter Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 Love it :D. As expected, combining Martin and Miyazaki results in explosion of awesomeness. Also worth noting is how both Howl and Howland are magicians (in Howland's case, he's been heavily connected with greenseering and green men) in a world where magic is rare and valuable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Weirwoods Eyes Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 Love Howls moving castle it is one of my DD's favourite films too (she is 5) I missed How(lands) moving castle ref. :cheers: fantastic! This just makes me smile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CreativeName Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 Love it :D. As expected, combining Martin and Miyazaki results in explosion of awesomeness. [...] Love Howls moving castle it is one of my DD's favourite films too [...] Well, just to clarify, the reference is rather referring to the book by Diana Wynne Jones (1986), NOT the animated movie by Studio Ghibli. One very simple argument to support this claim: It cannot refer to the movie, because the movie is from 2004, way after ASOS was released. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northbound2.0 Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 Am I the only one who pictured it built on the back of a giant turtle like the one in the Swamps of Sadness in the Neverending Story? :rofl: Nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedShirt47 Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 Being Irish I recognised what a Crannog was - we had school trips to see recreations. They're houses built on lakes back in the Iron age which makes them easily defended. Although I never heard of ones that could move.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crannog Also Alfred the Great was based in a marsh / swamp when he was fighting the Vikings in the 8th century. The vikings couldn't find their way in the marsh but the English could move quickly and ambush them as they knew the terrain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melisandros Megas Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 Wasn't there a swamp castle in Monty Python's Holy Grail?...on a side note: who is the Brave Ser Robin of asoiaf? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devilrob6 Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 Wasn't there a swamp castle in Monty Python's Holy Grail?...on a side note: who is the Brave Ser Robin of asoiaf? Yes, there was a swamp castle in Monty Python, which was basically built on the three previous castle that sank into the swamp. But that one isn't moving around. And Brave Ser Robin: Marilion maybe? He could sing about his own cowardice, without needing any bards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hippocras Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 Wasn't there a swamp castle in Monty Python's Holy Grail?...on a side note: who is the Brave Ser Robin of asoiaf?Sweet Robin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Groat Posted April 1, 2014 Author Share Posted April 1, 2014 You nailed that one, Sweet Robin. In all of fiction he is the one child most deserving of a well-placed backhand from a mailed fist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Roberto Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 Being Irish I recognised what a Crannog was - we had school trips to see recreations. They're houses built on lakes back in the Iron age which makes them easily defended. Although I never heard of ones that could move. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crannog Also Alfred the Great was based in a marsh / swamp when he was fighting the Vikings in the 8th century. The vikings couldn't find their way in the marsh but the English could move quickly and ambush them as they knew the terrain. Great explanation! I have always wondered myself where "crannogmen" came from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Ravens Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 It had completely bypassed me that Howl and Howland share a name, of sorts. Yes, I think this is as clear a reference as it can get. Awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dany Girl Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 :rofl: Nope.Not gonna lie, if the castle isn't in a giant turtle I'm gonna be disappointed. Not that it would ruin the books, just be a wasted opportunity IMO. Not nearly enough giant turtles in fantasy, especially jerk turtles like the Neverending Story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hippocras Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 Not gonna lie, if the castle isn't in a giant turtle I'm gonna be disappointed. Not that it would ruin the books, just be a wasted opportunity IMO. Not nearly enough giant turtles in fantasy, especially jerk turtles like the Neverending Story.Well to be fair we DID meet a giant turtle on the Rhoyne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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