Rhom Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 On a side note, cool name Serwe's Burning Heart.Indeed. And with nary a whiff of feces... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sologdin Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 that's honey scented anus to you, mister. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalbear Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 Inrilatus can know about it because he's super perceptive. Come on. You're asking how a Dunyain perceives more than they ought to?And what you described is essentially a super utteral, great ruiner. You can use slightly different words but it's the same idea. Moe also never said he was rewriting people's souls. He was rewriting what they would believe. Honestly the notion that any base level part of the universe can be rewritten has been essentially debunked. Both from the author directly and thematically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diziet Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 Inrilatus can know about it because he's super perceptive. Come on. You're asking how a Dunyain perceives more than they ought to? If it's a good question for Maithanet, it's a good enough question for me. I can see him coming up with it on his own if it's something intrinsic to the world, and even then it's unlikely that he would call it exactly what Moenghus called it; TTT. If it's however a diabolical plan that Moenghus invented to unite the Three Seas and then destroy the Consult, it's seem even more farfetched even for a Dunyain. Honestly the notion that any base level part of the universe can be rewritten has been essentially debunked. Both from the author directly and thematically. This could probably be done using the No-God, and I think that the Dunyain were working towards that same goal without even knowing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentRoamer Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 Inrilatus can know about it because he's super perceptive. Come on. You're asking how a Dunyain perceives more than they ought to? This is not true - Inrilautus is half-Dunyain. The text goes to great pains to ensure this is understood by the reader - I think it is not so subtle. Though to be fair we are oft reminded how he his intellect is closest to his father of all the children. How he is the "most" Dunyain. I am not sure we know explicitly what the TTT is. I know the text has told us what the TTT is but can we really trust the text as this is coming from someone else's mouth - specifically coming from a Dunyain (lying liar who lies). Kellhus clearly knows. I always think of TTT as an extreme extension of the Probability Trance. So when Moenghus tells Kellhus that belief begats action, that means Moenghus has realized this is a principle aspect of Kellhus' self delusion, he's telling Kellhus what he already believes in order to better control and deceive him because "belief begats action" is what Kellhus already believes and what Kellhus also WANTS to believe, Kellhus does not know the origin of his own thoughts or his own actions, he's just using the CONVICTION heuristic to deceive himself. When I read this it just makes me think of the twig that stuck in Kellhus foot! That was a big foreshadowing. If it is revealed Kellhus is deceived by Moenghus for the long game then I will literally lose all faith in the Aspect Emperor and embrace salty black damnation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anatúrinbor Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 I wonder how far a Bakker thread can go before someone brings up the HITB thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry of the Lawn Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Hinnereth Intramural Team Benjukka? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalbear Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Hey AkkaI got something' real important to give youSo just sit down and listenAkka you know we've been together such a long long time(Such a long time)And now I'm ready to lay it on the lineWow, you know it's Inrithismas and my heart is open wide(Open wide)Gonna give you something so you know what's on my mind(What's on my mind)A gift real special, so spread it apartTake a look inside it's my heart in a butt(It's in a butt)Not gonna get you a circumfixThat sort of gift just sucks a dickNot gonna get you a great ordealGirl, ya gotta know you're hanging on my wheelNot gonna get you a castleA girl like you gets something from my assholeWanna get you somethin' from the heartSomethin' special girlIt's my heart in a buttMy heart in a butt babeIt's my heart in a buttOoh, my heart in a butt girlSee I'm wise enough to knowWhen a gift needs givin', and I got just the oneSomethin' to show ya that you are second to noneTo all the fellas out there with ladies to impressIt's easy to do just follow these steps1, open a hole in the butt2, put her heart in the butt3, make her open your buttAnd that's the way you do itIt's my heart in a butt! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhom Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Ah... Ever are men deceived.I wonder how far a Bakker thread can go before someone brings up the HITB thing.It already has...Indeed. And with nary a whiff of feces... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhom Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 I got something' real important to give youSo just sit down and listenAkka you know we've been together such a long long time(Such a long time)And now I'm ready to lay it on the lineWow, you know it's Inrithismas and my heart is open wide(Open wide)Gonna give you something so you know what's on my mind(What's on my mind)A gift real special, so spread it apartTake a look inside it's my heart in a butt(It's in a butt)Not gonna get you a circumfixThat sort of gift just sucks a dickNot gonna get you a great ordealGirl, ya gotta know you're hanging on my wheelNot gonna get you a castleA girl like you gets something from my assholeWanna get you somethin' from the heartSomethin' special girlIt's my heart in a buttMy heart in a butt babeIt's my heart in a buttOoh, my heart in a butt girlSee I'm wise enough to knowWhen a gift needs givin', and I got just the oneSomethin' to show ya that you are second to noneTo all the fellas out there with ladies to impressIt's easy to do just follow these steps1, open a hole in the butt2, put her heart in the butt3, make her open your buttAnd that's the way you do itIt's my heart in a butt! :bow:ETA: Shit. I'm mobile and don't know the bowing emoticon. You get the idea though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anatúrinbor Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Ah... Ever are men deceived.It already has... Yeah, I was talking about you... =-=-=-=-= But since you brought it up. I think there is no question that the Mandate and Dunyain are Bakker's First and Second Foundations, both created by Seswatha to bring about the New Empire thousands of years after his death. So if Seswatha left his heart at Atyersus and it is required that Mandate members grasp it to learn the Gnosis, then he must have left another body part in Ishual so the Dunyain can grasp TTT. So, has there been any discussion about which body part is it? =-=-=-=-= Off-topic but the answer to how Inrilatas knew about the Thousandfold Thought is that Kellhus told him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sologdin Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 wait, are you saying that seswatha's heart will be pulled out of seswatha's ass at ishual? this is the point of DA and mimi's journey? i shake in anticipation of volume VI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diziet Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Hinnereth Intramural Team Benjukka? Keeping this joke encrypted might be a good idea... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anatúrinbor Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 wait, are you saying that seswatha's heart will be pulled out of seswatha's ass at ishual? this is the point of DA and mimi's journey? i shake in anticipation of volume VI. I was thinking that since the Mandate has the heart and Ishual has the butt, the two "foundations" must come together as the Seldon plan predicts by inserting the heart in the butt and getting the key to Golgotterath in return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unJon Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 :lmao: Kal, :slow clap: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sci-2 Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 :lmao: Kal, :slow clap: +1. I almost spit out my tea! In his essay showing the flaws of evo-psych, Berlinksi concludes with an ancient story that reminded me of the Inchies: The time is the distant past. “In Babylonia,” the 3rd-century historian Eusebius writes in recounting the lost histories of Berossos the Chaldean, a large number of people “lived without discipline and without order, just like the animals.” A frightening monster named Oannes then appeared to the Babylonians after clambering out of the Red Sea. “It had the whole body of a fish, but underneath and attached to the head of the fish there was another head, human, and joined to the tail of the fish, feet, like those of a man, and it had a human voice.” The monster “spent his days with men, never eating anything, but teaching men the skills necessary for writing, and for doing mathematics, and for all sorts of knowledge.” Since that time, Eusebius adds regretfully, “nothing further has been discovered.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diziet Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 Has anyone from the Mandate ever asked themselves about the No God's questions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anatúrinbor Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 They must have contemplated it, but only Seswatha understood the metaphysics well enough to be able to answer such questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anatúrinbor Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 Aspect-Emperor by SH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diziet Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 If he knows so much, why didn't he tell them? Aspect-Emperor by SH. What team is he playing for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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