Diziet Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 Not sure how Neuropath's quality is related to Bakker's online persona. It's actually a good book but tedious at times. I haven't read Disciple though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jussi Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 Jay Tomio used to be a big PoN fan (when he was blogging and writing on message boards in the 00s). I didn't know that he stopped reading Bakker after a falling out. I haven't followed Bakker's career in awhile. I really REALLY like his Prince of Nothing stuff. I think it's up there in all time fantasy work. I vaguely recall someone tell me he got caught up in some internet commotion, something I missed due being out of the game myself and having a falling out with him myself, though one that was never spoken on by either party to my knowledge. Bakker's work requires commitment to fully enjoy, so while I absolutely loved it, it was easy to not keep up once I had the notion not to. http://www.tomio.me/2014/05/in-reflection-matthew-stover-daniel.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castel Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 Not sure how Neuropath's quality is related to Bakker's online persona. It's actually a good book but tedious at times. I haven't read Disciple though. I think he means the relentless evangelizing with BBT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diziet Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 "Isn't the BBT stuff y'know, his job?" :P It does make the book tedious at times, like I said. But a bit of skimming never hurt anyone. I'd say read it unless you're fed up with his BBT talk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castel Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 "Isn't the BBT stuff y'know, his job?" :P It does make the book tedious at times, like I said. But a bit of skimming never hurt anyone. I'd say read it unless you're fed up with his BBT talk. Oh, I wasn't saying that I minded, but it is relentless. I find it amusing.Others...not so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diziet Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 Jay Tomio used to be a big PoN fan (when he was blogging and writing on message boards in the 00s). I didn't know that he stopped reading Bakker after a falling out. That's terrible. What did he fall out from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diziet Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 Anyone know why the PoN wiki is embarrassing in terms of content (and look) compared to the ASOIAF, Malazan, WoT, and most other SFF wikis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castel Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 Not that complicated: those are far more popular series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anatúrinbor Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 Yeah, WoT and ASOIAF have sold tens of millions of copies and have much larger online fan communities. Malazan is also a lot more popular than TSA but not comparable to the first two. Plus, its wiki is not even that much developed compared to TSA (except maybe in looks). But if you're not satisfied with the PoN wiki content you can always, you know, contribute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diziet Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 I'd like to contribute. Not sure what to add though. And I disagree about the Malazan wiki, the books are not that popular and it doesn't take that many people to at least fix the shitty look of the PoN wiki. Perhaps that will make it a bit more inviting to new contributors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anatúrinbor Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 You need to take into account the amount of material that the wiki covers, Malazan has some 14-16 books between Erikson and that other guy, compared to TSA's five, and like I said it's much more popular. In fact, in terms of the content to popularity ratio, the PoN wiki comes out near the top. Take a look at the First Law wiki (a series that sold's some 3+ million books compared to Bakker's 100-200 thousand). And my god, if you want to contribute to the wiki, please be my guest. Whining about the way it looks (which isn't bad at all) doesn't help with anything. What is bothering you about the way it looks so anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diziet Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 Come on, you can't be serious that it looks shitty, right? Compare: WOT, ASOIAF, Malazan, FLT... and PoN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jory Cassel Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 There's really no need for elaborate designs and superfluous decoration, this is about the shortest path after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diziet Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 Like I said, it's more inviting and people who consider picking up the series will find it more appealing if it looks like it has a proper online fanbase.Something from an old thread,I would pay good money to see Michael Komarck tackle depicting the characters and setting... but he could illustrate a My Little Pony book and I'd consider paying for it, so don't mind me.He'd do a fantastic job with the magical scenes in particular. John Picacio would be cool too. One day there is going to be a "World of The Second Apocalypse/Earwa" type book, I hope. I would pay good money for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Ent Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 Anyone know why the PoN wiki is embarrassing in terms of content (and look) compared to the ASOIAF, Malazan, WoT, and most other SFF wikis? Same answer as for any other wiki: Because you, SBH, have not done anything about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diziet Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 I have been doing something about it. But what is one person going to do? And besides only the founder of the wiki can do certain things like the change the look as far as I know, and he/she has been dead (metaphorically) for a few years now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anatúrinbor Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 Any admin can access the theme designer actually. I can make you an admin on the PoN wiki... but I won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Richard II Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 You know, personal opinions about it aside, Saying Malazan isn't popular is just false. Those books sell much better than Bakker, so its not that surprising it has a better(looking anyway) wiki. ha snapping back into form with RJ is a sellout/tolkien is racist/what should I read next/so&so shat in my soul/what order to read/bakker/bakker/bakker/BAKKER/BAKKER!!! Ha, we need someone to start a "what order to read" thread about something thats a single book. Or maybe, Is Goodkind any Good? Edit: I can't imagine the effort that goes into some of those wikis, let alone for something like PoN. Good luck, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diziet Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 So I've been reading Disciple of the Dog and although I can't say that I like it at all, I'm actually surprised that the people in this thread don't. I mean, a bunch of unfunny fart and semen jokes that the author no doubt thinks are the epitome of hilarity... how is that so different from this very thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sologdin Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 mistaken, SBH. no one has joked about seminal fluids in this thread. these are rather serious points of analysis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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