Diziet Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 Demented views on gender are pretty much Bakker's trade mark at this point, and that quote speaks for itself really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castel Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 Demented is a bit harsh. You can go anywhere from misguided to wrong but he's not the Tom Kratman of women in fantasy. Not that that quote has anything to do with gender. He seems to mean well, even with the whole "I think women are our better half, really), it's just...things get away from him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anatúrinbor Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 I always thought that Bakker's views on male sexuality deserve their own thread. How about it then Serwe? "Bakker and Men I" would be very interesting. For the reactions more than the discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Seswatha Jordan Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 Well. When I stumbled on to bit about many believing Seswatha to be the father of Nau-Cayuti, it just seems as if its going to tie into the plot somehow. And, as far as I recall, no I dnt think she had the TJE before coming to Akka. But I might be wrong about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diziet Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 She had the JE since the beginning because since the JE is the eye of the Unborn (which is part of the Outside) it witnesses time in a nonlinear manner or something, she gets pregnant at some point, therefore she always had the JE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diziet Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 I always thought that Bakker's views on male sexuality deserve their own thread. How about it then Serwe? "Bakker and Men I" would be very interesting. For the reactions more than the discussion. I actually think this would be interesting. Though I'm not so sure I want to be the one to start such a thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castel Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 Those views have probably been covered in-depth in the Bakker and Women threads, since they are pretty important to women, so we probably shouldn't start another Bakker thread :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Seswatha Jordan Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 OK, I couldn't recall, thank you serwe. U have any thoughts on the Nau-Cayuti/Seswatha, Mimara/Akka parallel?. Just seems important to me. As i think the Great Ruiner told me the dreams Akka was having being in line awaiting the internal fire or whatever was going on, he was dreaming as Nau-Cayuti. Seems important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diziet Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Yeah, it's an interesting parallel. At this point I think we can only make guesses about how it will play out. At least until we find out what really happened to Nau-Cayuti. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolivar Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 I feel like Achamian first dreaming about Nau-Cayuti's death,then him being taken back to Golgotterath in a sarcophagus and dumped before Aurang suggests that he was turned into the No-God, or maybe given control of the Sarcophagus if Mog Pharau had already awakened in his time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diziet Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 If (big if) Nau-Cayuti was "turned" into the No-God, and he ended up with that identity crisis, then could it be that the parallel is that Mimara will be used to create him this time, but because she has the JE he/she won't be asking those questions anymore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sologdin Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 pop mimi in sarcophagus and make it the judging-god. HERE IS WHAT I SEE. I MUST TELL YOU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wise Fool Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 I'd rather have Akka in there and become the Bitter-Relucant-Hermit-God. I DONT CARE WHAT YOU SEE. GO AWAY. NO SERIOUSLY, LEAVE ME ALONE ALREADY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unJon Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 If (big if) Nau-Cayuti was "turned" into the No-God, and he ended up with that identity crisis, then could it be that the parallel is that Mimara will be used to create him this time, but because she has the JE he/she won't be asking those questions anymore? maybe we will see what happens when the chorae on the sarcophagi are inverted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borque Posted June 3, 2014 Author Share Posted June 3, 2014 pop mimi in sarcophagus and make it the judging-god.I want Wutteat in the carapace just to see what font his speech would be rendered in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhom Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 I want Wutteat in the carapace just to see what font his speech would be rendered in. It'd be like the large print edition of the Reader's Digest that my grandmother gets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diziet Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 maybe we will see what happens when the chorae on the sarcophagi are inverted. Inverted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anatúrinbor Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 If (big if) Nau-Cayuti was "turned" into the No-God,If you get bitten by a No-God you turn into one surely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unJon Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Inverted? The thing Mimara did at the end of TJE with the chorae to keep away the wight in the mountain. She like reached into the chorae and inverted it. Or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diziet Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 That's still one of the many questions that I hope we'll get a satisfying answer to but wonder if we will. It's like Chorae normally banish sorcerers to the Outside but Mimara's Chorae banished the Outside itself. You're saying that we won't get answers or that the answers won't be satisfying? I'm actually hoping that he doesn't answer every question out there, but knowing Bakker I'm sure he will. What worries me more about the ending though, is the idea that TUC will end with the No-God rising. I'm not sure how that could be a satisfying ending to be honest. Unless he rises and is destroyed right away, which isn't that satisfying either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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