growflet Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 SER POUNCE!! I liked the Jaime/Brienne scenes, Tyrion/Jaime, Littlefinger, scenes. I'm not entirely sure how I feel about the whole bran arc. I understand they have to do something, because walk, walk, walk, walk, walk, would be boring on TV. I like the confirmation about the white walkers that we only get implications from in the books. Otherwise, pretty good. Not jumping up and down screaming "YAY EPISODE", just "pretty good" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fool of a Book Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Best episode yet, even though so much had changed. Was kind of nice to be surprised. I had to keep reminding myself that Bran and Company would be OK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
of man and wolf Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Also did anyone notice how good the direwolves looked in this episode? Glad to see they are getting some of that CGI budget too and not just the dragons Yes. They looked great. This is how they should have always looked. Although I get in the first couple seasons they were still growing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ran Posted April 28, 2014 Author Share Posted April 28, 2014 (edited) Two points: This isn't that big of a spoiler, IMO, the last scene. It just confirms stuff everyone pretty much believes, re: Craster's sons (and which is even more the case with the show, as we actually see an Other pick up the child there). Is the guy at the end the Great Other? I doubt it. There seemed to be another 12 (yeah, 13 in total) of him off to one side. Think this is more some sort of ... leadership group. Which is sort of spoilery and sort of not, because while GRRM says they don't have a "culture" per se, someone's got to make them their swords and armor and lead them, I guess. Also, to be technically accurate, the wolves are not CGI. They are composited into the scene, and are 100% real wolves. I agree they did some great lighting matching, though. ETA: More thoughts, plus links to the post-episode featurettes from HBO, at the Oathkeeper episode guide. Still working away on the recap (yeah, 5 AM here). Edited April 28, 2014 by Ran Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Antony Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 The WW at the end could just be like a priest or something who does the initiation :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Igziabeher Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 A solid 9, while keeping in mind that the books are the books and the show is the show. That said, the non-frostbitten, happy baby bit at the end? Weird, just plain weird and completely inexplicable. Anyway, so much played out tonight with Dany's conquest, Tyrion and Jaime, Sansa and Littlefucker. I even liked Bran and the NW mutineers! Finally got the answer of how much Joff's grieving widow knew. Still the baby - laws of physiology say he shouldn't have made it to wherever the hell the WW took it before dying of frostbite. And the little tyke was so happy - WTF's up with that? Watching again, so good.Physiological complaints when the books/show has the unburnt mother of dragons and a woman birthing a murderous shadow? It is fantasy, ya know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sand11751 Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Physiological complaints when the books/show has the unburnt mother of dragons and a woman birthing a murderous shadow? It is fantasy, ya know? Oh really? Never realized that before, thanks for informing me! Your job is done here - Next! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anarchosaurus Rex Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Probably one of the worst episodes ever, in my opinion. I barely recognized any of it. The eponymous scene - "Oathkeeper" - seemed shorter than Grey Worm's completely superfluous language lesson. Divergences in Bran's storyline are pointless filler. Oh, and for the cherry on top, a godawful CGI Targaryen flag and potential - who knows, at this point, what with all the liberties D&D love to take - book spoilers involving the Others. Thanks, HBO! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wmarshal Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 I gave it a ten, the blue armor won me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
direwoofwoof Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Great episode. Laughed. Awwwed. Worried. Grossed out. Freaked out. Much better than last week! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wmarshal Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 The WW at the end could just be like a priest or something who does the initiation :D The Great Other's answer for Benerro? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiola Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 A solid 9, while keeping in mind that the books are the books and the show is the show. That said, the non-frostbitten, happy baby bit at the end? Weird, just plain weird and completely inexplicable. Anyway, so much played out tonight with Dany's conquest, Tyrion and Jaime, Sansa and Littlefucker. I even liked Bran and the NW mutineers! Finally got the answer of how much Joff's grieving widow knew. Still the baby - laws of physiology say he shouldn't have made it to wherever the hell the WW took it before dying of frostbite. And the little tyke was so happy - WTF's up with that? Watching again, so good. Magic, dude. The White Walkers are powerful as fuck. I'm sure they have some sort of power to keep the baby alive long enough to change it into what they need it to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talbot Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Based on the actual episode: 8.5 With the amount of tears and rage over the deviations? 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Of House Hill Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 (edited) I cannot believe anyone liked this episode. I've always known they could not follow the books exactly, but what they did tonight was an outrage. Now that they've introduced Darth Maul, Will the Witch King of Angmar show up next week. Edited April 28, 2014 by Robin Of House Hill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnysd Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 I understand they have to do something, because walk, walk, walk, walk, walk, would be boring on TV. It' even more boring in the books. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToTheWolves Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 I find it funny book readers somewhat pretty much liked this episode, but the unsullied seem to hate this episode...well the ones I know at least . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ran Posted April 28, 2014 Author Share Posted April 28, 2014 I should add I don't really dislike giving Jon something to do. But the seams are showing in the story construction to get everything there at the same time in a very clumsy way. Personally I'd have preferred having better logic for why Bran might be at Craster's Keep (seriously, looking for friendly wildlings?) and maybe to have Jon simply stick to the mutineer idea without having a thought to Bran possibly being there. Let Locke go with him just because he hopes it'll make Jon trust him more, so he can kill him more easily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistress of Lemon Cakes Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 It was so weird to be on the whole "I have no clue what the hell is going on right now for once!" as soon as we cut to Bran's storyline. When the white walker turned up I kept thinking "please be Coldhands and go and kill those mutineers already!" even though I knew it wouldn't be him. ... and then low and behold ... confirmation on how the Others are made. I gave the episode an 8. There were so many good scenes that again kind of seemed overshadowed by the end so I'll definitely be rewatching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tallTale Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Just a soso episode for me. Probably because I am most interested in the KL's stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jslay427 Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Someone a while back called Locke joining the NW. I actually don't mind how they made it play out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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