Lyanna<3Rhaegar Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Well she did go east before going west, and some have reinterpreted "pass beneath the shadow" to mean a literal shadow, like the shadow cast by Drogon.But Dany assumes Quaithe is talking about Asshai & says "What will I find in Asshai that I will not in Qarth" & Quaithe says "Truth." So even if she is wrong in assuming its Asshai she believes it is. You would think she would go there. Or maybe she decides she is done with all this prophecy nonsense & says "Screw it, I'm doing what I want!" Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyanna<3Rhaegar Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 That's not a small question. You ought to be able to find a thread.I have looked but every time I search something nothing comes back so I think I'm doing something wrong :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Melnibonean Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 I have looked but every time I search something nothing comes back so I think I'm doing something wrong :(Start a new thread :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyanna<3Rhaegar Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Start a new thread :)I will try that thanks :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumHam Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Imagine the Dance of Dragons had not happened, and Rhaenyra took the throne. I'm assuming she would actually rule, but what do you think her uncle/husband's role would be? Would he be allowed to sit the throne in her absence? Would he have been counted as a Targaryen king? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fragile Bird Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Lol, now that is not a small question. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Melnibonean Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Imagine the Dance of Dragons had not happened, and Rhaenyra took the throne. I'm assuming she would actually rule, but what do you think her uncle/husband's role would be? Would he be allowed to sit the throne in her absence? Would he have been counted as a Targaryen king?King Consort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhaenys_Targaryen Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Egg is gonna be a knight. And it's gonna be a big deal cause he's gonna want Dunk to do the deed... Yeah, I think this is how Dunks secret is gonna come out in the open as well. You'd think Dunk would realise this, but then again, he's as thick as a castle wall.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhaenys_Targaryen Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Imagine the Dance of Dragons had not happened, and Rhaenyra took the throne. I'm assuming she would actually rule, but what do you think her uncle/husband's role would be? Would he be allowed to sit the throne in her absence? Would he have been counted as a Targaryen king? Either King Consort, or Prince Consort, I'd say. But I doubt he would have counted as Targaryen King, as in reigning king, since the throne would have been Rhaenyra's. But she seemed to trust him a lot, so I'd say she would allow him to sit the throne if she herself was not available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Universal Sword Donor Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 I'm sure a king can knight men. ETA: Essentially, in medieval monarchies, until kings gave away their powers to parliaments (which don't exist in Westeros) all power and title resided in the king, so a king would be able to knight whoever he wanted to. I realize it's present day, but I doubt Queen Elizabeth ever had a go at a quintain but she knights people all the same. There are records of nobles and clergy knighting men outside of other knights and the monarch as well. Just to add a little fuel to the Robert fire I have to point out that in Meera's story to Bran, which is about knights, as he specifically asked for them, she always refers to Robert as just the storm lord. And I think knights are just the lowest social rank allowed to participate in tourneys, not the only one. Either way I haven't found mention of Robert's knighthood save for Selmy's comment that was mentioned earlier. Maybe in the reach knights are the lowest social order allowed. However we see many examples of non-knights riding in the joust (Brandon, Jory, the Hound), fighting in the melee (Thoros), and archery (Anguy). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhaenys_Targaryen Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 I realize it's present day, but I doubt Queen Elizabeth ever had a go at a quintain but she knights people all the same. There are records of nobles and clergy knighting men outside of other knights and the monarch as well. Maybe in the reach knights are the lowest social order allowed. However we see many examples of non-knights riding in the joust (Brandon, Jory, the Hound), fighting in the melee (Thoros), and archery (Anguy). That's because the person hosting the Tourney is allowed to choose the rules. Said person can choose to hold a tourney for Knights only, like happened in Ashford in 209AC, or a tourney open for all who can fight, like what most likely happened during the Tourney of the Hand in 298AC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Melnibonean Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Either King Consort, or Prince Consort, I'd say.But I doubt he would have counted as Targaryen King, as in reigning king, since the throne would have been Rhaenyra's. But she seemed to trust him a lot, so I'd say she would allow him to sit the throne if she herself was not available.My understanding is that only the Hand can sit the IT if the Kingb is unavailable. When Cersei was regent she kept her buns off the seat, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhaenys_Targaryen Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 My understanding is that only the Hand can sit the IT if the Kingb is unavailable. When Cersei was regent she kept her buns off the seat, no? Hmm.. I don't know.. She did want to sit on it.. But I can't remember her thoughts about it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roddy Darwin Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Hmm.. I don't know.. She did want to sit on it.. But I can't remember her thoughts about it..She never did. She had a "Queen chair" made, and put it at the foot of the Iron Throne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HexMachina Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Quaithes prophecy does not necessarily imply that Dany needs to go to Asshai. Some believe that that part of the prophecy was fulfilled in Dany's last chapter in Dance (The shadow referring to Drogon). Others believe that the prophecy will be fulfilled in TWoW (The shadow referring to shadow cast by The Mother of Mountains where Dany had the vision of the crones kneeling before her). Also, wasnt the SSM made pre Feast for Crows? I seem to remember something about George initially envisioned Dany going to Asshai but that got scrapped with the 5 year gap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HexMachina Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Also; has the board been moved around? I'm seeing the Show sub-forums above the books now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consigliere Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Also, wasnt the SSM made pre Feast for Crows? I seem to remember something about George initially envisioned Dany going to Asshai but that got scrapped with the 5 year gap It's from 2008 so pre ADwD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumHam Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 My understanding is that only the Hand can sit the IT if the Kingb is unavailable. When Cersei was regent she kept her buns off the seat, no? Right that's why I asked if he would be allowed to sit the throne, he would be a king no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Universal Sword Donor Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 That's because the person hosting the Tourney is allowed to choose the rules. Said person can choose to hold a tourney for Knights only, like happened in Ashford in 209AC, or a tourney open for all who can fight, like what most likely happened during the Tourney of the Hand in 298AC. Yes which is what I was saying. The Reach follows chivalry and knighthood the most. The other regions, not so much, as someone already pointed out in the thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Melnibonean Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Right that's why I asked if he would be allowed to sit the throne, he would be a king no?But only a king consort not regnant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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