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Joffrey should have been coughing before he drank the wine. That would have made it more ambiguous as to who murdered Joffrey. Here, they seem to try to make it more clear cut that it was Tyrion, even though there doesn't seem to have been any opportunity to poison the wine.


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while watching Joffrey die was excellent...based on what they showed on screen, there is no way Tyrion could have poisoned it.


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Joffrey should have been coughing before he drank the wine. That would have made it more ambiguous as to who murdered Joffrey. Here, they seem to try to make it more clear cut that it was Tyrion, even though there doesn't seem to have been any opportunity to poison the wine.

There was absolutely opportunity. Olenna was sitting right next to it. As the camera established a couple of times.

while watching Joffrey die was excellent...based on what they showed on screen, there is no way Tyrion could have poisoned it.

Clearly some difference of opinion here.

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Joffrey should have been coughing before he drank the wine. That would have made it more ambiguous as to who murdered Joffrey. Here, they seem to try to make it more clear cut that it was Tyrion, even though there doesn't seem to have been any opportunity to poison the wine.

How do you get that? We all know it's no Tyrion

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Decent death scene for Joffrey, though.



And were any of the dwarves female? Have we eliminated the character of Penny?


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Joffrey should have been coughing before he drank the wine. That would have made it more ambiguous as to who murdered Joffrey. Here, they seem to try to make it more clear cut that it was Tyrion, even though there doesn't seem to have been any opportunity to poison the wine.

They did have the QoT unnecessarily in the frame right before Tyrion served him, and she was the first non-family member to react. Subtle clues, but not nothing.

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yes, that was the first thing i noticed too. no girl dwarf. but that doesn't mean she won't show up later.


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Goddamn, I'm going to miss Jack Gleeson.



yes, that was the first thing i noticed too. no girl dwarf. but that doesn't mean she won't show up later.


You're right! We COULD see all the dwarfs' faces. Huh.


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Joffrey should have been coughing before he drank the wine. That would have made it more ambiguous as to who murdered Joffrey. Here, they seem to try to make it more clear cut that it was Tyrion, even though there doesn't seem to have been any opportunity to poison the wine.

They do have him take a sip of the wine once with no issue. It wasn't until it was placed by Marg next to Olenna that Joffrey started coughing though.

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Where do you go to see the unsullied reactions? I only have one RL friend who watches GoT and she also read the books.



I'm sure they are dancing/in shock.



Mixed feelings about this episode, but I'm glad they nailed Joff's death.


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There was absolutely opportunity. Olenna was sitting right next to it. As the camera established a couple of times.

Clearly some difference of opinion here.

yes, QoT could have done something, but the way they are framing the scene they are making it appear that it can only be him even though the two times he filled the goblet everyone was watching him.

How do you get that? We all know it's no Tyrion

no, we all don't know it's not Tyrion...some people do, some don't. People watching the show who have never read the books may not have any clue there could be someone other than Tyrion - especially since (as things stand right now) there were no gems mising from Sansa's necklace.

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Was that Jack Gleeson singing The Rains of Castamere during the credits???


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