Lord Bored Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 This was without a doubt the most well written and paced of the season so far. Loved the Dragonstone scenes as well as those belonging to Silly (Sam + Gilly shipping lol). Also loved the foreshadowing with the mentioning of the Martell/Targ alliance, Golden Company, etc. Having said that, I do have to agree that the Jaime/Cersei sept scene was just cringe-inducing (probably the sole negative aspect of the episode for me), made even worse by the fact that Cogman confirmed that it was intended to look 100% consensual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBastard Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 I don't usually hate on the tv show (im pretty laid back and can usually understand the changes they make) BUT I HATE THAT THEY MADE JAIME RAPE CERSEI. He is supposed to be in the midst/final transition of becoming a better man. Even before his redemption he would have never raped her! Now I know how the Stannis fans feel :bang: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newstar Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 (edited) About Tommen's age and his marriage to Margaery... Did anyone notice that as Tywin and Tommen were walking away, Tywin was telling Tommen about the need to marry and continue the family line? The rest of the conversation went like this: Tywin: To continue the family line. Do you know how that happens?Tommen: Yes.Tywin: Has anyone explained the details to you?Tommen: I don't think so.Tywin: It's all relatively straightforward... Hmmm. Sansa and Tyrion never wound up consummating their marriage, either, but Tywin giving Tommen the talk? I wonder. TV Tommen is...interesting. Despite being older, he still seems easily manipulated by Tywin...although, to be fair, Tywin was not wrong in anything that he said. Edited April 21, 2014 by Newstar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frances Bean Corbray Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 he left it on the railing, didn't he? sansa probably still has it, right? i mean, isn't that the "tool" everyone is speculating sansa will use to do him in? He eventually swept it off the rail and onto The Late Ser Dontos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoIaF Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 totally love it when she talks high valyrian! i also liked the symbolism of the broken collars. nice.The symbolism was great. ***On different topic I really don't understand what D&D were trying to accomplish with the Jaime & Cersei rape scene. Their relationship is about consent, why would D&D distort it this way? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chebyshov Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 he left it on the railing, didn't he? sansa probably still has it, right? i mean, isn't that the "tool" everyone is speculating sansa will use to do him in?.I thought he threw it off, on top of Dontos's body Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pretty Meris Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 I think the Iron bank has had a mention in every episode thus far Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HouseHarrison Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Best written and directed ep of the season, though the deviations with Jamie and the Thenns irked me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViennaGirl Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 He eventually swept it off the rail and onto The Late Ser Dontos. And Dontos stayed in the boat, so if the boat goes ashore and they find him and the necklace, it will frame him and Sansa. Right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel Green Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 he left it on the railing, didn't he? sansa probably still has it, right? i mean, isn't that the "tool" everyone is speculating sansa will use to do him in? Littlefinger pretty clearly demonstrated that all the other stones are just made of glass or whatever, I thought, based on that. Though that raises problems of its own, since that necklace doesn't seem to have a "front" or "back", so Sansa could easily have put it on with the poisoned one on the other side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frances Bean Corbray Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 About Tommen's age and his marriage to Margaery... Did anyone notice that as Tywin and Tommen were walking away, Tywin was telling Tommen about the need to marry and continue the family line? The rest of the conversation went like this: Tywin: To continue the family line. Do you know how that happens? Tommen: Yes. Tywin: Has anyone explained the details to you? Tommen: I don't think so. Tywin: It's all relatively straightforward. Hmmm. That was fantastic. Partly because I think Tywin Lannister is one of the last people I'd want the "The Birds And The Bees" speech from. Poor Tommen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aovalle Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Did Sansa leave KL with LF in book 3 happen right after the purple wedding like they show it in? Or am I correct to think she didn't leave until book 4? Memory is kind of fuzzy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rill Redthorn Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Can't figure the Orys I thing. If they meant to say "Aerys I", maybe there are rumors that he was offed by Maekar? (Rumors he was offed by Bloodraven might work too, but Bloodraven was his uncle...) Maybe Orys is the missing Targ king ruling between Jaehaerys I and Viserys I? It's the only place he'd fit in, unless he ruled for only a couple days and was killed by one of the kings already on the list and so no one counts him or something. (Can't imagine Orys Baratheon actually ruled, and can't imagine Aegon I killing him either.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hound's She-wolf Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Hate that they had the Hound steal, after he said he wasn't a thief and hated that Jaime raped Cersei. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Harbors Wrath Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Going to guess that Gilly ends up on the throne. The amount of time wasted on her in the books has now bled into the show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newstar Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Can't figure the Orys I thing. If they meant to say "Aerys I", maybe there are rumors that he was offed by Maekar? (Rumors he was offed by Bloodraven might work too, but Bloodraven was his uncle...) Maybe Orys is the missing Targ king ruling between Jaehaerys I and Viserys I? It's the only place he'd fit in, unless he ruled for only a couple days and was killed by one of the kings already on the list and so no one counts him or something. Could be. Or maybe the writers just made shit up. (Just saying.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stannis I Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Well, I don't know why everybody is so upseted about Jaimie/Cersei sex scene. It was not rape! In the book, he finds her alone with Joff's body and takes her right there, while she says "stop, Jaimie, please, not here, not now". What's the difference?If that was rape, so it was in the books. The problem, I see, is that book Cersei doesn't care about it, she just accept the rape thing so she can control others (just like happens with one of the Kettleblacks). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Pipes Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Distinctly irish this time. Perhaps it's his special smuggler accent Definitely. Though he managed to be Creepy Uncle Littlefinger, invading Sansa's personal space the entire time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rill Redthorn Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 I think the "Jaime rapes Cersei" thing totally messed up the end of A Feast For Crows with the "I love you, I love you, I love you" letter from Cersei to Jaime, doesn't it? If she still writes him that letter after being raped, that is F*KKED UP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyanna<3Rhaegar Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Ahh! Wth just happened? Worst episode so far for me. Jaime raping Cersei?! Gilly is in Moles town & the wildlings have all gone mad! Very disappointing. Loved the Tywin/Tommen & Tyrion/Pod exchange. Sansa's escape scene was almost too bad to watch. I love Dany tho & thoroughly enjoyed the last scene. Miss Strong Below as :( but Daario is bad ass! So glad they changed his actor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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