MsLibby Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Why is it that all the other Lannisters are portrayed in a more kindly fashion on the show than they are in the books with the exception of Jaime. Why do this to his character? Is it because the audience was starting to like him? Or is it that the show runners know the ending and they want his redemption ark to be that much bigger. I can't figure this out. Suggestions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamSongs Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 I really hated how they portrayed Jaime in this episode. They made that sept scene suggestive of being something less than consensual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newstar Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 I really hated how they portrayed Jaime in this episode. They made that sept scene suggestive of being something less than consensual. It was straight-up rape as far as I could tell. Maybe there will be some post-ep interviews that suggest something different, but right now I find it hard to see it as anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FNF Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 I really hated how they portrayed Jaime in this episode. They made that sept scene suggestive of being something less than consensual. I haven't read aSoS in a while, but didn't Cersei initially try to get Jaimie to stop because she was on her period? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MsLibby Posted April 21, 2014 Author Share Posted April 21, 2014 I keep telling myself that the writers and directors know stuff that we don't. That's the only way I hope to explain this to myself. Of all things that Jaime did in the books, taking a stand against rape was one that impressed me the most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Lannister Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Yeah, playing the scene out that way was just distasteful. Granted, the book's version wasn't much more pleasant, but for Christ sake. What other needless deviations need to be made to undo what little good he's achieved in the show so far? Kinslayi- oh, no, wait... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MsLibby Posted April 21, 2014 Author Share Posted April 21, 2014 I haven't read aSoS in a while, but didn't Cersei initially try to get Jaimie to stop because she was on her period? She did try a bit to get him to stop but I never thought the scene was rape. it was forcfull yes, but not rape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonCon's Red Beard Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 It's like the rape is the worst Jaime has done. Because pushing an innocent kind from a window and fucking his own sister was ok, apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebla Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 It's like the rape is the worst Jaime has done. Because pushing an innocent kind from a window and fucking his own sister was ok, apparently. QFT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KalibakCruel Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 It's like the rape is the worst Jaime has done. Because pushing an innocent kind from a window and fucking his own sister was ok, apparently.Rape is worse than fucking your sister. The point however is that Jaime was on an upswing he's supposed to be redeeming himself inch by inch. Rape now sets him back again for no reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FNF Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 She did try a bit to get him to stop but I never thought the scene was rape. it was forcfull yes, but not rape. The thing is, although Cersei does say stop a lot in this scene, she was still kissing him back so I don't see a problem with it personally. It just seemed like rough[er] sex like it was in the books... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VeturKemur Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Pretty sure the Unsullied think something bad personally happening to Cersei is long overdue so rapey-looking sex it is... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MsLibby Posted April 21, 2014 Author Share Posted April 21, 2014 Exactly! His character has taken a giant leap back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ran Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Director Alex Graves on the scene, via Hitfix: "Well, it becomes consensual by the end, because anything for them ultimately results in a turn-on, especially a power struggle. Nobody really wanted to talk about what was going on between the two characters, so we had a rehearsal that was a blocking rehearsal. And it was very much about the earlier part with Charles (Dance) and the gentle verbal kidnapping of Cersei's last living son. Nikolaj came in and we just went through one physical progression and digression of what they went through, but also how to do it with only one hand, because it was Nikolaj. By the time you do that and you walk through it, the actors feel comfortable going home to think about it. The only other thing I did was that ordinarily, you rehearse the night before, and I wanted to rehearse that scene four days before, so that we could think about everything. And it worked out really well. That's one of my favorite scenes I've ever done." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van West Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 It's like the rape is the worst Jaime has done. Because pushing an innocent kind from a window and fucking his own sister was ok, apparently. Raping your grieving sister is far worse than just fucking her consensually. Also the attempted murder on Bran can be justified. Raping Cersei can't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chebyshov Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Rape is worse than fucking your sister. The point however is that Jaime was on an upswing he's supposed to be redeeming himself inch by inch. Rape now sets him back again for no reason.My thoughts too. It's like when they had him murder his cousin in Season 2 when that didn't happen all, though at least that was a means to an end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonCon's Red Beard Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Rape is worse than fucking your sister. The point however is that Jaime was on an upswing he's supposed to be redeeming himself inch by inch. Rape now sets him back again for no reason. Is rape worst than pushing a kid to his death BECAUSE you were fucking your sister? Really, IN BOOK he fucked his sister NEXT to his dead son's body INSIDE a Sept AFTER he meet Brienne and started his "path to redemption". He was still quite a disgusting man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Lannister Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Director Alex Graves on the scene, via Hitfix: I think they conveyed that pretty damn badly. Cersei's shouting at him to get off from start to finish; at no point did I think, "Well okay, that suddenly became consensual." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViennaGirl Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 yeah, that was way too rapey. meh. Jaime was doing so well on the character arc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pantouflas Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 I never understood what was the point of the scene in the book either.. Any suggestions? I didn't believe for a second that Cercei or Jaime would do that - and I was hoping this was another point D&D would deviate from the book. Oh well.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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