Cold Crashing Waves Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 It wasn't a subtle scene so why would it require subtlety? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tankbuster Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 "Yo Mama makes the bestest potatoes"*Arrow through the face How about some people on the outskirts being stealthily killed, before moving inside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lelele Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 And here I thought I was pro-Wildling, that set me back. :dunce: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramsay Gimp Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 Anyone think that the scene was as subtle as a blow from King Bob's Warhammer? Like Bloodloss said, why should a raiding scene be subtle? Not everything needs to have hidden meaning or understated tones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koi No Yokan Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 Like Bloodloss said, why should a raiding scene be subtle? Not everything needs to have hidden meaning or understated tones Exactly. Was a brutal scene; just what I'd expect from a wildling raiding party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Tyrion I Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 "Yo Mama makes the bestest potatoes" *Arrow through the face How about some people on the outskirts being stealthily killed, before moving inside. It was just macabre. But I nearly laughed at that point about that. Overall I liked that scene - because of the choreography. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 They certainly cleared up the cannibal thing. Its not just crows. It also makes me want to see Ygritte dead which is quite an accomplishment considering how much I like the actress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jairion Lannister Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 Like others said, I don't know why people would really expect stealth. There's a reason it was a raid and a massacre. Why did they have to be stealthy if that wasn't needed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lezboyd Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 Like others said, I don't know why people would really expect stealth. There's a reason it was a raid and a massacre. Why did they have to be stealthy if that wasn't needed? Mance instructed them to wait for his signal, and then attack from the other side while he charges The Wall. I think it is pretty much implied that he wanted them to lay low till that point. I don't remember how it went down in the books though, so don't hold me up to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Zee Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 Mance instructed them to wait for his signal, and then attack from the other side while he charges The Wall. I think it is pretty much implied that he wanted them to lay low till that point. I don't remember how it went down in the books though, so don't hold me up to it. with Jon escaping , surprise is no longer an option. I'm assuming that Styr has new orders- create diversions to drain Castle Black's strength. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theda Baratheon Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 The raid and the menacing music was all good, it was really effective in displaying WHY the Night's Watch raid and fight the Wildlings, and WHY they can't just let them through and all sit together and fight the Others united, but my GOD the OTT cannibal shit is a bit naff, if they were skagosi it would be kind of awesome, but I'm still annoyed they did this to the Thenns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SerArthurHeath Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 I think we are being a tad harsh on cannibals here. Surely murder is worse than cannabilism anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theda Baratheon Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 Well, murder is rampant in this world, we know that - cannibalism comes from murder so that point is also a bit moot as it's sort of included.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SerArthurHeath Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 I figure once someone's dead, eating them is taboo in most cultures but nothing like inherently evil. Mostly avoided to prevent murder for food or spread of diseases I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FNF Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 I think we are being a tad harsh on cannibals here. Surely murder is worse than cannabilism anyway? Cannibalism by itself is condemned as an awful crime in Westeros. Killing and then eating someone like the show!Thenns? That's like 10x worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SerArthurHeath Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 Going against the feudal system is a terrible crime in Westeros, too. I'm just saying from our view as watchers, surely the Thenn's murderousness is actually objectively worse than the fact that once they've murdered people they use the bodies practically? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywolf2375 Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 with Jon escaping , surprise is no longer an option. I'm assuming that Styr has new orders- create diversions to drain Castle Black's strength. How would he have gotten new orders? If they were discovered, wipe out whoever discovers you but I can't see them preparing for "if Jon Snow does escape, here is what I want you to do..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tankbuster Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 Well, it doesn't take much to reason that if a Double Agent from the watch has escaped, they must know of the wildling's coming and their sneak attack is ruined. Then the only way to weaken CB is to draw the rangers out Piecemeal and decimate them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkash Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 Gonna make a giant leap now with the way that little boy was looking at Ygritte that he is the one to stick a fatal arrow in her. Preferrably Jon trains him. Glad I'm not the only one thinking that ! Aside from that, I found the scene quite well done ! Reminds us of their ferocity ! My main deception is Tormund. Come on ! "Har" a little for us man ! I hope they have so good Tormund scenes ahead ! But otherwise, the raiding scene was good, imo. And I dont mind the Thenns being cannibals ! Shortcuts. It always makes sense to merge different strong visual aspects of the story : in this case the bald bronze-armored Thenns and the cannibals Ice-River clans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cameron Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 i disliked the portrayal of the wildlings so far, i think its pretty far off from the books where they were just desperate people. yeah, they raided from time to time but its implied that many wildlings, if not the majority, were more concerned with feeding their families and making a living than wholesale slaughter. it makes letting the wildlings through the wall look like a stupid move on jons part. put another way, they are portraying the wildlings in the same way most southerners see them, not the way they are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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