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Aiden Gillen and the Butchery of Littlefinger (Book Spoilers)


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A little off topic but the placement of one bit of fog out in the harbor just killed me. On Earth, where I've been, you don't get a dense fog all by itself. The whole body of water is fogged, and how could LF count on it being there? Maybe LF had a cloaking device.

Pfft. Some geek you are. He's got a TARDIS, remember? Back in Season 2, with all the jumping around? And a TARDIS doesn't have a cloaking device, it has a chameleon circuit.

I liked him a lot more tonight too - not quite as moustache-twirling, and a voice that seemed almost normal.

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I think it was pretty established in AGOT that LF was a mustache-twirling villian. When he betrays Ned, in both book and show, he personally puts the dagger (about which he lied, those lies having contributed greatly to the Lannister/Stark war) under Ned's throat and says (in a whisper maybe, but in the middle of a throneroom), "I told you not to trust me."

Mustache = Twirled

Seriously, if you didn't get that he was a villain at that time, I'm not sure how the subsequent scenes would be able to "spoil" you.

I think it's more spoilers for the other characters than for viewers. LF is only effective if people don't realize that he is a threat to them. I like Gillen overall but I think that the writers misstepped a few times with LF's character, like when they have him threatening Cersei for no real purpose.

(The book does have this problem too so I can't blame the show. Tyrion knows that LF is the one who framed him and started the whole war but just kind of forgets about it near the beginning of the second book.)

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@TheValonqar

. The fact that Robb and Talisa got married in the fashion of the seven,

That totally annoys me. My husband hasn't read the books and when I watched the episode with him, he couldn't understand why I was so outraged at the wedding. I can't believe George didn't correct it.

I assumed it was because they were far out in the riverlands at the time and there were no Weirwoods nearby?

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@TheValonqar

. The fact that Robb and Talisa got married in the fashion of the seven,

That totally annoys me. My husband hasn't read the books and when I watched the episode with him, he couldn't understand why I was so outraged at the wedding. I can't believe George didn't correct it.

It was established in the Sansa and Arya chapters that because of their parentage, the Stark children were raised under both the Faith of the Seven and The Old Gods. Why is this still brought up?

And the boat reveal played out almost exactly the way I imagined while reading aSOS. How subtle did you all really picture it? He just murdered an man in front of Sansa, confessed to assassinating the King, and practically gave a cartoon villain monologue.

In my head the only differences were in the "shot composition". (Didn't Dontos fall into the water?)

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My personal complaints about lack of subtlety are for the character as a whole, not that particular scene. Like offereing to help Sansa out of the capital face to face with her in the throne room, or giving his background history to Ros as he directed virtually directed a porno, or threatening Cersei to her face. The boat scene was a reasonable adaptation to me, but a lot of the other scenes have been much less so.


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I disagree with you on Roose, I think he is portrayed nearly perfectly. He is disarmingly normal in his presence, but when he speaks, there is so much weight behind his voice. I am not as convinced with Ramsay's portrayal(mostly for shallow reasons to do with the length of his hair) but there are moments that I go " That's Ramsay!" when watching him so yeah...

I enjoy ME's portrayal of Roose Bolton a lot. It doesn't hurt that he looks a bit like Putin!

The actor portraying Ramsey does the crazy eyes perfectly, you can see the evil glint in the eyes.

This. You get the sense that he really enjoys what he does, so much that he seems like a child at play.

"The Lannisters send their regards, Avada Kedavra..."

And then a huge snake eats Greywind.

Lololololol.

Back on topic: I don't mind his portrayal of LF. The raspy voice can be a bit much at times, but he definitely knows how to invade a girl's personal space! He is different from Book!LF, but part of me thinks that because of HBO's T&A quota, he was the perfect vehicle for those sexposition scenes.

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I find Gillen to be hilariously entertaining as Littlefinger, I love every second of his performance. "I can't tell you how touched I am" in a raspy voice has become a regular phrase among me and my friends.


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I find Gillen to be hilariously entertaining as Littlefinger, I love every second of his performance. "I can't tell you how touched I am" in a raspy voice has become a regular phrase among me and my friends.

Lol...

I think Aiden Gillen is great.

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