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[Book and Show Spoilers] Episode 4 Promo

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iheartseverus Council Member

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Hmm, I posted a similar topic a few days ago but it never appeared for some reason ;P

Anyways, anyone else thinks that white walker on the end of the promo is Coldhands? I know that he had blue eyes and not wearing a scarf, but they do not exactly follow every little detail. (Darrio's blue beard for example etc..)

Re posting a topic, I guess a lot of people start these episode preview threads all about the same time, so when the Mods are ready to open the topic, they just pick one out of the bunch and toss the rest.

Re Coldhands, no. John Bradley (Sam) revealed in an interview some time back that Coldhands was not going to appear in the show at all.

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Now I'm thrilled to see Tommen using whatever his grandfather taught him last episode on Margaery. We already missed "the talk", so let's give us some awkward Tommen tying to do what he just learned. :lol:

I hope not. I on the other hand put a little bit of hope for Ser Pounce epic debut.

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Re posting a topic, I guess a lot of people start these episode preview threads all about the same time, so when the Mods are ready to open the topic, they just pick one out of the bunch and toss the rest.

Re Coldhands, no. John Bradley (Sam) revealed in an interview some time back that Coldhands was not going to appear in the show at all.

Yes I thought so about the topic.

About coldhands, when did John Bradley said that? Cause I think it was announced on Facebook this summer that lady SH, CH and the man with 1001 eyes will be on the show. Not sure I may be mistaken.

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I can't imagine that Bran and friends will be captured at Craster's. One of them will get hurt for sure. Also, maybe it is in the books and I don't remember but I thought the message in blood on the walls of Meereen was strange. Can the slaves read? I am sure some can, but I would think that most would not be allowed to read.


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Yes I thought so about the topic.

About coldhands, when did John Bradley said that? Cause I think it was announced on Facebook this summer that lady SH, CH and the man with 1001 eyes will be on the show. Not sure I may be mistaken.

They wouldn't announce spoiler-heavy characters like that on Facebook.

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I can't imagine that Bran and friends will be captured at Craster's. One of them will get hurt for sure. Also, maybe it is in the books and I don't remember but I thought the message in blood on the walls of Meereen was strange. Can the slaves read? I am sure some can, but I would think that most would not be allowed to read.

Even if they can read, why would they write "Kill the Masters" in Common Tongue (English). It would be better if it had been written in Ghiscari or High Valyrian, and the subtitles read "Kill the Masters."

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iheartseverus Council Member

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Thanks. I don't remember him at all from season 3. :ohwell:

Easy to understand. He was 'barely there,' which I thought was odd, given he's a pretty big name. He was wonderful as a ridiculous, pretentious law clerk in Bleak House with such an over the top low-class, no-class Brit accent, all he had to do was appear on screen for me to start laughing out loud. He was just wonderful.

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Easy to understand. He was 'barely there,' which I thought was odd, given he's a pretty big name. He was wonderful as a ridiculous, pretentious law clerk in Bleak House with such an over the top low-class, no-class Brit accent, all he had to do was appear on screen for me to start laughing out loud. He was just wonderful.

He's not really there before the mutiny but he's pretty much all over the scene so if you remember it at all, you have to remember him since he's the one who starts the whole thing and kills Craster. Pretty memorable:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsrJ3cxi0Cgt#t=02m20s

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Tommen, the Knight of the Gate actor's CV says he will appear in a Michelle MacLaren directed episode. So either this one "Oathkeeper" or the following one "First of His Name." After that he will appear in an Alex Graves directed ep., so either eight or ten. That could well confirm your speculation.

My guess would be that we see Ser Donnel first when Arya and the Hound try to enter the Vale, and subsequently he shows up at some official function at the Eyrie (possibly making an ironic comment to Alayne about all the vagabonds he's had to turn away). Or possibly Arya and the Hound press on into the Vale via some route, and he and his men are the ones who wound the Hound near-fatally later on.

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As far as I can tell, this is the complete list of scenes that we know will be in the episode. I'm sure that there will be one or two others that we can't divine from either the synopsis or the promos. The scenes are obviously not necessarily in order.

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Wow. Very good summary. I do hope we get a quick scene with YAsha, if only to remind viewers that:

1) she does exist.

2) she keeps her oath to save her little brother.

Well, we all know how much Tommen loves his pussy... :leaving:

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Jaime gives Brienne Oathkeeper. He tasks her with finding Sansa and protecting her.

Jaime and Brienne say goodbye to one another outside the city gates.

I suspect this show's version of events is going to have Jaime send Podrick with Brienne from the start, seeing as last episode set up the need for him to leave town.

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I suspect this show's version of events is going to have Jaime send Podrick with Brienne from the start, seeing as last episode set up the need for him to leave town.

Poderick does have a reason to go find Sansa as well because finding her would help clear Tyrion's name, which we know he would desperately like to do. He could be sent by Jaime or he could quickly pop up with Brienne shortly after she leaves too.

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Great breakdown SoManVows! Very concise and lays down everything we know about it and are likely to see in it in a more detailed manner than I could muster!



This Locke business is interesting and could shape up to make for some pretty cool scenes. Noah Taylor is awesome and though I wanted Jaime or Brienne to kill him last season, I'm glad now that they've kept him around. Just one question: how will he know to look north of the Wall unless Sam or Gilly somehow spills the beans about Bran's location/direction? Or unless Jon knows that Bran and co. are north of the Wall in show canon. They haven't addressed that yet, of course, but it is an understandable point of contention.



We should remember that this episode is going to be pretty short. I can't link the source that says how long each episode is going to be, but I remember its either 51 or 52 minutes. So it might not be as jam-packed as some people have speculated.


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