[Book Spoilers] Bran and Company

[lelele]

I think the "good" wildlings will "rescue/abduct" Jon Snow and co. at Crasters Keep. One of them know where CotF and guides Bran to them.

[Jehanne]

I don't know. Looks like Jon and co. are going to attack Craster's, so maybe in the melee, Coldhands will come and "rescue" Bran and friends, leading them to the Children.

After all, if Jon came across Bran and found out he wanted to venture farther North, what would Jon do?

He'd say "Oh, no, you're not!" and take Bran back to Castle Black.

But the 3EC wouldn't want this to happen.

[Chebyshov]

I don't know. Looks like Jon and co. are going to attack Craster's, so maybe in the melee, Coldhands will come and "rescue" Bran and friends, leading them to the Children.

After all, if Jon came across Bran and found out he wanted to venture farther North, what would Jon do?

He'd say "Oh, no, you're not!" and take Bran back to Castle Black.

But the 3EC wouldn't want this to happen.

I think the fact that Jon & NW need to deal with what's going on at Craster's is basically proof that we're not getting CH. Why else would they write that in?

[Jehanne]

I think the fact that Jon & NW need to deal with what's going on at Craster's is basically proof that we're not getting CH. Why else would they write that in?

Maybe they needed some excuse to show the scene at Craster's, so they could do the Others scene with the baby.

But to just show it and leave it be, would be a big loose end.

Plus, the relationship of Jon and Locke can develop, and Jon can get Ghost back :)

[Chebyshov]

Maybe they needed some excuse to show the scene at Craster's, so they could do the Others scene with the baby.

But to just show it and leave it be, would be a big loose end.

Plus, the relationship of Jon and Locke can develop, and Jon can get Ghost back :)

Oh, I mean I'm fine with the change, and I don't mind the character development on the way (also setting up Jon to become LC because people are willing to follow him). I just meant that if we're getting CH, they would have shown Bran & Co. nearing the keep, shown what was going on inside, and then I guess have CH turn up and save Bran once they get captured (still a change from the book, but it would have been a cool introduction to CH). But they found a way to have the mutineers taken care of without CH, so I'm assuming he's been cut.

Really looking forward to Jon and Ghost reuniting. They're my OTP.

[Carne]

I think the "good" wildlings will "rescue/abduct" Jon Snow and co. at Crasters Keep. One of them know where CotF and guides Bran to them.

I think Hodor will show some mad moves, then one of Craster's wifes will show them the backdoor. The wife sitting next to Karl is named Sissy although it's not uttered in the episode. I think she might have something to do with their escape.

[Jon-Michael Pearson]

I think Hodor will show some mad moves, then one of Craster's wifes will show them the backdoor. The wife sitting next to Karl is named Sissy although it's not uttered in the episode. I think she might have something to do with their escape.

I think Hodor will show some mad moves, then one of Craster's wifes will show them the backdoor. The wife sitting next to Karl is named Sissy although it's not uttered in the episode. I think she might have something to do with their escape.

Agree Bran will warg into Hodor and they will get out before Jon gets there.

[Petyr Patter]

You know, like the third or the fourth scene in the entire show was Bran being summoned by his father to watch the execution of a Night's Watch deserter.

The one thing I think that would really give this new plotline a payoff is to see Bran remember his heritage, and find a way to kill the deserters. Preferably by his own hand.

[Arch-MaesterPhilip]

You know, like the third or the fourth scene in the entire show was Bran being summoned by his father to watch the execution of a Night's Watch deserter.

The one thing I think that would really give this new plotline a payoff is to see Bran remember his heritage, and find a way to kill the deserters. Preferably by his own hand.

I thought he was going to warg into Hodor last night and go ballistic. That could be a possibility, but I think what's going on at Craster's is what is going to bring Coldhands into the story.

[ugashep]

I think Hodor will show some mad moves, then one of Craster's wifes will show them the backdoor.

A dirty mind is a terrible thing, lol.

[juanml82]

No Coldhands. Deal with it.

If Bran was to tell Jon what he's on about, Jon might choose duty over love and let him go in his not so merry way. However, we have Locke going there and he's likely to interfere in any family meeting.

Good point about Bran warging Hodor, though. The mutineers wouldn't expect Hodor to put up a fight. He's injured and chained, though.

[Jon-Michael Pearson]

No Coldhands. Deal with it.

If Bran was to tell Jon what he's on about, Jon might choose duty over love and let him go in his not so merry way. However, we have Locke going there and he's likely to interfere in any family meeting.

Good point about Bran warging Hodor, though. The mutineers wouldn't expect Hodor to put up a fight. He's injured and chained, though.

The only reason i think this was the scene when they were picking on Hodor and said if I was your size I would rule the world

[Petyr Patter]

Another thought occurs to me.

Craster's Keep has not been a part of the books since Sam fled them. We just had Martin release in Arya chapter before a highly similar scene in the show, albeit under different timing.

Could Bran and the Reeds be experiencing a "Winds of Winter" plot line not yet published?

[Black Wolf Smith]

Could Bran and the Reeds be experiencing a "Winds of Winter" plot line not yet published?

I don't see how, the story has gone far beyond that. Bran and Co, some of the former NW, are/were far to the north of Craster's place, and Bran would have to leave CoTF and go thru a lot to even getting back there.

[ovis alba]

The only reason i think this was the scene when they were picking on Hodor and said if I was your size I would rule the world

That was exactly my thought. I somehow have the feeling Bran and Jon will "miss" each other just like all the other Starks do all the time. It would just be quiet a stretch if they would meet and Bran could tell Jon all about the warging, the dreams etc. Also Locke meeting Bran would sort of mess up the whole dynamics?!

And then the main question is: how do they get out without Jon and his brothers and the Hodor scene to me might hint to some more warging of him (maybe he's going to free Ghost while that, who is also good for some "damage" ;) )

[Theda Baratheon]

I really really want coldhands.

[salmonsnake]

Something said by Cogman re: this episode struck me as peculiar:

"the idea was to put Bran, Hodor, Jojen and Meera into a really dangerous situation beyond the Wall that didn’t involve the supernatural, but rather humanity at its worst."

The fact that he would spell this out sort of makes me think the wights are still going to be there. That they are hoping to portray the threats that are both natural and supernatural, and to instantly have the Winter Wonderland with Santa Coldhands riding his antlered friend bailing them out of trouble might downplay the very relatable, very human dangers that remain there.

[Pinky Baelish]

i really hope bran will warg into hodor at night, break those chains (just like in the sigil of house umber) and free both direwolves. although i would love to see hodor go berserk and smash some of these mutineering rapists into pieces, it would make more sense if they just stuck to their usual ways and sneaked off into the dark. when jon and company arrive, bran could assist them by warging into summer and mauling rast and his buddies anyway.

[ovis alba]

I really really want coldhands.

I would have really liked to have him, but I feel bringing him in now would make me more disappointed that they skipped him before.

[Orys Lothston]

It would make sense for Bran to warg into a mutineer and release the direwolves but it sounds like Bran and Jon might meet which is just all wrong...