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(SHOW SPOILERS) An Early Look At Episode 4--THAT scene


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How was the ramsey scene sexually violent? Anyway I think the scene in question is going to be the slave uprising. That seems to have the most potential for gruesome scenery, and my sense from the interview was that it was a prolonged scene with lots of shots, not something quick like a baby scene.


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do you think the show will start losing some audience if they follow Jaime's rape episode with a baby-eating episode? because if this were any show but GOT, I'd have bailed out. I'm afraid they'll only have book fans left if they show monsters eating a baby. I'm getting nervous about whatever scene this is.

Haven't show fans already seen a baby murdered in KL? It wasn't particularly graphic, but still, it's a little late for viewers to get upset about baby killing.

If anything, I would expect book fans to be more angry at the idea of the Others being turned from an intelligent and complex race into baby eating monsters.

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As a woman the only problem for me with the show is excessive female nudity and a comical lack of male nudity. The disproportion is sexist. As for sexual violence, it's actually toned down considering what was in the books.

The problem is that those events are, most of the time, narrated by X character in the books, and even when they are directly 'witnessed' by the reader, it's still less shocking considering the medium in which it takes place.

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How was the ramsey scene sexually violent? Anyway I think the scene in question is going to be the slave uprising. That seems to have the most potential for gruesome scenery, and my sense from the interview was that it was a prolonged scene with lots of shots, not something quick like a baby scene.

ramsay hunted a girl for sport and let his dogs eat her which is dehumanizing and sexual in nature.
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ramsay hunted a girl for sport and let his dogs eat her which is dehumanizing and sexual in nature.

There's nothing really to suggest it's sexual in nature just because he happened to be hunting a female. He didn't pleasure himself or anything like that while watching. I think he just enjoys torturing humans.

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Remeber when the farmer was praying to the Maiden to protect Sally's virtue from the clutches of depravity(rape). Given how they are trying to show that the gods don't care for men...You don't think... would even Game of Thrones go that far?


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I disagree. I find Gregor/tavern girl story and Ramsay's wedding night more disturbing than anything in the show so far.

I'm not saying I don't find the books scenes disturbing, don't get me wrong, but that scene from 4x03 shocked me more than anything from the source material tbh. I don't know, maybe it's about control : while reading the books the readers make up their own mental image of the scene, whereas in the show you have no choice but to watch what's being proposed (it's more of an "in your face" medium, if you will).

I guess in the end it just depends on people's personality.

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There's nothing really to suggest it's sexual in nature just because he happened to be hunting a female. He didn't pleasure himself or anything like that while watching. I think he just enjoys torturing humans.

yes he loves torturing both sexs but his hunts are always after a girl. yes he enjoys touring all humans but there is defently a sexual thing involved in his hunts.

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GoT won't go THAT far. There would be no reason to see Gregor go that farmhouse. The little girl is ten or something, they wouldn't shoot that.



I imagine that was a throwaway remark from the guy about toning a scene down. I'm sure they've had to tone down many scenes in the past, it's just no one said anything about it.


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Apparently the HBO schedule says what content each episode contains, I couldn't find that on it, but someone on wicnet said that the episode five says "graphic violence" not episode four. I imagine the graphicness is some gore in the Craster's Keep fight.


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How can you make that assumption when the only other time we've seen him hunt someone down, it was Theon?

basing it off the books, but lets not argue about this, it was a terrible scene that shows how much of a monster ramsay is.

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So we have babies getting stabbed with glee, brother raping sister, mass murder, rat torture, immolations, and offscreen baby eating. What could possibly more violent, disturbing, and disgusting that all these things that the Director of Photography makes a comment on it?


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I hope we get the Dreadfort next episode. I mean after all of his screentime last season shouldn't they be giving us more of Theon/Reek now? I want more Roose g it looks like we probably will not see roose again until the finale.

it looks like we will not see roose again until the finale. We will see reek and ramsay in epiosde 6 when yara attacks the dreadfort, we will see them in epiosde 8 when reek treats with the ironborn at moat cailin and in epiosde 10 when ramsay and rooses forces meet up. They will almost certainly be in at least one other episode so there is still some really good stuff coming up.

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So we have babies getting stabbed with glee, brother raping sister, mass murder, rat torture, immolations, and offscreen baby eating. What could possibly more disturbing that all these things that the Director of Photography makes a comment on it?

Didn't we also see Theon get flayed for a bit?

It's probably a very violent rape scene or very graphic dismemberment like someone getting cut open slowly while still alive.

But, considering all what we have seen (and will see, Gregor cleaving commoners in half and impaling them on his sword and tossing them in the air) it might even be worse. Like someone getting raped with a knife till they die or so.

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