Frances Bean Corbray Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 One thing I don't get, wasn't the NK eventually killed by his brother and Joramun? It's kind of weird to see him sticking around. "Fell" Beaten, not necessarily killed (and in this world death isn't as absolute as one would think, particularly when The Others are involved) Oh Old Nan you scamp, such clever word choice in your storytelling :) Also I think just like with the Long Night/Prince That Was Promised/Azor Ahai story, the details have gotten a little warped (to fit an agenda, and due to forgetfulness and getting farther removed from the actual event) over the centuries. If The Night's King is The Ultimate Traitor so horrible his real name is stricken from official records, then obviously that side would have to tell the story ending with his destruction (so don't try following his footsteps!) whether he actually was killed or merely deposed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabronius Maximus Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 "Fell" Beaten, not necessarily killed (and in this world death isn't as absolute as one would think, particularly when The Others are involved) Oh Old Nan you scamp, such clever word choice in your storytelling :) Ah I just checked the wiki too. Well that's definitely an important distinction. So him 'falling' could just be him running away to the north. Choice words indeed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyrion Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Old Nan never said he was killed. Just that he was stopped by the king beyond the wall and the Stark at Winterfell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gneisenau Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 One thing one couldn't help notice was the Other who brought the baby had a ponytail. Is there some significance to that ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Sapp Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 If you count The Night's King, there was 13 white walkers. When he walks to grab the babe the camera goes back a little and shows 12 others behind him. So NK could be last hero? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Duncan of Flea Bottom Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 I'm pretty sure that horned creature in the end is the Great Other, looks like we book readers got spoiled for once lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oberyn2cool4Westeros Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 One thing one couldn't help notice was the Other who brought the baby had a ponytail. Is there some significance to that ? Yes. The Others are very stylish. The spoilers never end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Sabotage Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 also he had hands, and he looked cold . . . Actually I never stopped to this before the baby-delivery scene, but just as I was thinking "is this guy CH?", we got an amazing camera pan to his bare hands holding the reins, so I guess he really is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good Guy Garlan Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 I'm pretty sure that horned creature in the end is the Great Other, looks like we book readers got spoiled for once lol Talk in the street says it's the Night's King, apparently (the horns being the crown). I wonder if the show will have both the NK and the Great Other, or if they're going to make them into one character Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Sabotage Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Actually, how about "the first men" not being men at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejhawman Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Haven't actually seen the episode yet (no HBO, boo!) but it sounds like a fan theory was confirmed: The babies taken from Craster, and others among the wildlings, are turned into Walkers. Sounds pretty obvious, if you think about it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Duncan of Flea Bottom Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 I'm positive Coldhands is the Night's King, the Night's King was turned into a wight, an inteligent one, he was not originally an other Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabronius Maximus Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 It's not just talk in the streets, the 'official' episode synopsis from HBO calls him the Night's King. Also in the books we have no idea if the Great Other is an actual being. I personally think it's just the personification of ice magic, as R'hllor is for fire. I'm positive Coldhands is the Night's King, the Night's King was turned into a wight, an inteligent one, he was not originally an other The NK was originally a human, possibly a Stark (brother of the KitN at the time). Still could be Coldhands, but the NK looks very much like an Other, not a wight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Danford Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Actually I never stopped to this before the baby-delivery scene, but just as I was thinking "is this guy CH?", we got an amazing camera pan to his bare hands holding the reins, so I guess he really is. The camera did certainly linger on the creatures hand's for longer than seemed appropriate for the scene. A clue or just D+D playing with fan theories like they usually do (Tywin/Tyrions Father, Twyin/Jeoffery murder consipiracy), remains to be seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good Guy Garlan Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 It's not just talk in the streets, the 'official' episode synopsis from HBO calls him the Night's King. Also in the books we have no idea if the Great Other is an actual being. I personally think it's just the personification of ice magic, as R'hllor is for fire. Guess it's official then I once saw a theory about the Great Other being female, and I liked it, but who knows :dunno: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kinkslayer Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 To get some consensus, can we start referring to horse guy with Benjen hairstyle as Babyhands? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Duncan of Flea Bottom Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 It's not just talk in the streets, the 'official' episode synopsis from HBO calls him the Night's King. Also in the books we have no idea if the Great Other is an actual being. I personally think it's just the personification of ice magic, as R'hllor is for fire. The NK was originally a human, possibly a Stark (brother of the KitN at the time). Where is this sinopsis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Tongue Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Perhaps those Others were performing a test on the child. Maybe there's a particular child from Craster's line who is of interest to them. Maybe it's that little Craster baby at the wall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabronius Maximus Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 It was posted earlier in this thread, but it's here (scroll down a bit) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gneisenau Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 To get some consensus, can we start referring to horse guy with Benjen hairstyle as Babyhands? Oh so Benjen had a ponytail ? Is that White Walker Benjen then ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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