Rhaegar I Targaryen Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Tyrion and Dany are both going to get a gentle touch. I'd add Jon as well, but he doesn't do anything that needs to be whitewashed. back to the swamp with you... :whip: edit - but yea I think you're right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nami Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Budget.... The killing of the one guy was symbolic. Oh please, this is HBO I've seen bigger things in smaller channels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nami Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Tyrion and Dany are both going to get a gentle touch. I'd add Jon as well, but he doesn't do anything that needs to be whitewashed. Exchanging the babes was pretty mean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkbringer Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Just like they picked random slave kids to crucify, she picked random slave masters. Then its evil. Collective punishment is one the principle acts of a tyrant. Tyrants are evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob the Builder Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Oh please, this is HBO I've seen bigger things in smaller channels Still, a scene that big would take up way too much screen time to justify something shorter and more to-the-point, which is what we got instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oberyn2cool4Westeros Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Then its evil. Collective punishment is one the principle acts of a tyrant. Tyrants are evil. Only in the modern-day sense of the word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nami Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Still, a scene that big would take up way too much screen time to justify something shorter and more to-the-point, which is what we got instead. They could have shortened the soft porn in the other episodes. We would get a bigger scene in this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon of Valyria Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 "oh look, the slave masters are evil! time for me to be evil too! That'll show 'em!" yeah, great thinking there, Dany. Truly a leader for the ages. Dany and Tywin should have a tea party. Joffrey and Ramsay can come too. Ser Barristan probably very much had to remind himself that Dany is Aerys's daughter. Yeesh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkbringer Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Only in the modern-day sense of the word. Even a kings justice is still a system, of sorts. Even Tyrion gets a trial, and he almost got off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HouseHarrison Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Hardly an "evil" moment. I was happy she did it in the books and I was happy she did it here. Though they are rushing her Slaver's Bay chronicles, maybe D&D are eager to jump into ADWD already in which case oh boy.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Crashing Waves Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Then its evil. Collective punishment is one the principle acts of a tyrant. Tyrants are evil. Extremely short-sighted logic. Things are never that simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koi No Yokan Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Lol on the complaint it was "rushed". They literally showed Great Masters being nailed to to crosses, what more do you want?The show has now shown her burn a rape victim alive, lock one of her hand maidens in a vault to die, used trickery to get her army, and crucified people on screen. Can we stop with the "whitewashing" nonsense now? Agreed. Show Dany does what Book Dany is often criticised for, but it's still not good enough. Just can't take the complaints seriously anymore. we are talking about the sack of Mereen and the 163. A definig moment of a whole book, done in two minutes as a filler scene.Tonight it doesnt even rank top 3 in the heavy shit moments that were shown in this episode. Filler? The whole start of the episode was revolving around Meereen and Dany's conquest of the city. It was a dark scene; from the screaming and agonising look on the slave masters as they were hung up bloodily, Barristan asking Dany to reconsider and giving her a questionable look, to that great shot of Dany standing atop the Great Pyramid with her Targaryen flag hanging high above the city. Yes, "white-washed". Anyway, I reacted the same way in the show as I did in the book. Fuck the slavers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicagostatecougars Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Of course they don't show more details about capturing the city. It would make Danaerys look bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
averde Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Was there white washing? Of course as always when talking about show Danny, but I think this scene in particular heralds better darker Danny days ahead. We have Selmy trying to say "hey this is bad, the bad guys do stuff like this, respond with mercy and be a good guy!" and she rebuffs him and looks fairly evil standing up at the top of the city, targ flag in the background, screams of the crucified coming up from below. Was it book Danny bad? No, but things are heading in the right direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Crashing Waves Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 I agree that the sacking scene was very, very lame. One slaver dies. One slaver crucified, and WE SAVED THE CITY! All that money spent on creating Meereen (which looks fucking great, btw) and they can't film a few violent revolt scenes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ground_control Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 I agree that the sacking scene was very, very lame. One slaver dies. One slaver crucified, and WE SAVED THE CITY! All that money spent on creating Meereen (which looks fucking great, btw) and they can't film a few violent revolt scenes? They had to cut stuff to make all the straight-from-the-book North scenes fit in the last half hour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloodsteel bitterraven Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Crucifying the slavers was a dark decision but it wasn't evil. Let them taste what they dish out. I usually find Dany annoying but I'm with her on this one. Thank you. I didn't see it as evil either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Crashing Waves Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 They had to cut stuff to make all the straight-from-the-book North scenes fit in the last half hour. Pssh, the Northern half of the episode was the best part and just improved on that section of the book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaynsa Starne Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 The Ned lays out justice for us pretty well, my friends: "Do we have your leave to take vengeance against Ser Gregor, then?" Marq Piper asked the throne. "Vengeance?" Ned said. "I thought we were speaking of justice. Burning Clegane's fields and slaughtering his people will not restore the king's peace, only your injured pride." He glanced away before the young knight could voice his outraged protest, and addressed the villagers. "People of Sherrer, I cannot give back your homes or your crops, nor can I restore your dead to life. But perhaps I can give you some small measure of justice in the name of our king, Robert..... In the name of Robert of the House Baratheon, the First of his Name, King of the Andals and the Rhoynar and the First Men, Lord of the Seven Kingdoms and Protector of the Realm, by the word of Eddard of House Stark, his Hand, I charge you to ride to the westlands with all haste, to cross the Red Fork of the Trident under the king's flag, and there bring the king's justice to the false knight Gregor Clegane, and to all those who shared in his crimes. I denounce him, and attaint him, and strip him of all rank and titles, of all lands and incomes and holdings, and do sentence him to death. May the gods take pity on his soul." AGOT 469-470 American Paperback Ed. Slavers sucked, but what Dany did wasn't justice it was vengeance. She wants to take vengeance, that's fine, it was more than earned, but if she doesn't understand the difference between the two, she's in for a pretty tyrannical reign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen of Whores Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 I had to remind myself I was watching Daenerys Targaryen walk through that cheering crowd, and not Jesus Christ. *sigh* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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