Batman Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Just like they picked random slave kids to crucify, she picked random slave masters. Which makes her a hypocrite since she said she "would answer injustice with justice". Justice would have been finding the slavers who were responsible for the kids being nailed to the cross and dealing with them. The remaining slavers not responsible should have answered for their own crimes but not those they had no part in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nictarion Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 I had to remind myself I was watching Daenerys Targaryen walk through that cheering crowd, and not Jesus Christ. *sigh*Yeah, why don't the former slaves that she freed hate her like their supposed to? They should have been spitting on her. That would make more sense. *Double sigh* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Thank you. I didn't see it as evil either. Hypocritical, but maybe not evil (depends on your interpretation). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen of Whores Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Yeah, why don't the former slaves that she freed hate her like their supposed to? They should have been spitting on her. That would make more sense.Exactly! I knew someone would agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaynsa Starne Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 It occurred to me that the placement of this scene in the episode is important. The episode opens with Grey Worm talking about his experience as a slave (and ohmyworrrrrd the feels), has Grey Worm give an inspiring speech to the Meereenese slaves, brushes over the sacking, then goes into Dany crucifying slavers. It's set up as satisfying, doesn't compare slaver atrocity with Dany's own violent sack of the city, and then the episode quickly moves on. I came on this thread to talk about WW. I completely forgot about the Meereen scenes, and I think that's what was supposed to happen. It was addressed, but not presented as anything major. This is the city in which she will spend the rest of the season, and probably next season, too, and her actually taking over it was completely watered down and placed on the back-burner. After the conclusion of last week's episode, I assumed that a good amount of time would be spent on the conquering of Meereen, but I suppose since Dany is actually doing some murdering they just wanted to focus on her freeing slaves in case the viewer comes to the conclusion that Dany is wandering through Slaver's Bay, taking whatever city strikes her fancy WITH FIRE AND BLOOD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HouseHarrison Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 I had to remind myself I was watching Daenerys Targaryen walk through that cheering crowd, and not Jesus Christ. *sigh*Dany is consistently popular among the slave class of slavers bay. ADWD makes this clear countless times.She's hated among the merchants, masters, and leaders of other cities like Qarth and volantisAnyway I agree the whole Meereen sack was underwhelming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roose Seal Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 The opening scene with GW and Missandei was great. Why do they have to force some sort of romance between the two though? Brown people can only be with brown people, right? The rest of this sequence felt super rushed and the final shot of Dany on top of the pyramid looked cheap as hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan the Man Baratheon Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Jesus Christ Reborn is back. Indeed. That was "Ive heard this before, Aerys Jr." Dany standing on the top of that pyramid while all those guys are screaming and that Targaryen flag placed over the Harpy. Its spooky. Its supposed to make the audience go "heh yeah!" and then later go "omg was that really justice?" Especially since Barristan protested. Ahaha, Aerys Jr. Barristan Selmy the man knows how to find pathetic rulers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nictarion Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Jesus christ rebornLol, you have the story backwards. Jesus was the one who got crucified, not did the crucifying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Crashing Waves Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Dany: I AM THE BLAH BLAH AND I WILL BLAH BLAH *Badass action sequence* Slaves: LET US SUCK YOUR DICK DANY Wait, I think I've seen this before... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roose Seal Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Let the Great Nibbling of Meereen begin! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fightbringer Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 What so showing the slavers getting crucified in graphic detail, and having there screams being heard pretty much constantly for the rest of the scene, so that Danaerys can hear them all the way in her pyramid, is rushed and the show was uncomfortable with it?Just no pleasing some people I guess. And if you think that that was an 'evil moment' you are missing half the point of the sequence. Its another case of GRRM deliberately creating moral ambiguity, asking the reader whether it is right or wrong to do this to people who would do the same thing to others Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan the Man Baratheon Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Lol, you have the story backwards. Jesus was the one who got crucified, not did the crucifying. Yes i do have story backwards. Of course i meant Dany was literally JC. :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Abominable SnowOther Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Yes i do have story backwards. Of course i meant Dany was literally JC. :rolleyes: Ive made the mistake of comparing her to Jesus. Bad idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkbringer Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Thank you. I didn't see it as evil either. Really? No trial? No quick death? You do realise that every dictator in all of history thought of themselves as the good guy/girl, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nictarion Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Yes i do have story backwards. Of course i meant Dany was literally JC. :rolleyes:Comparing the shows portrayal of her to him is just as ridiculous. She CRUCIFIED people on screen in this episode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Crashing Waves Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Really? No trial? No quick death? You do realise that every dictator in all of history thought of themselves as the good guy/girl, right? Why would a slaver that took part in the decision of, or at the very least abided, crucifying children deserve a trial? Fuck that. A good man doesn't make a good leader. Sometimes you have to get dirty to get things done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan the Man Baratheon Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Comparing the shows portrayal of her to him is just as ridiculous. She CRUCIFIED people on screen in this episode. Everything that is not pro-dany is always ridiculous to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nictarion Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Everything that is not pro-dany is always ridiculous to you. Nope, just saying a show that clearly shows her as quite cruel to her enemies is portraying her as "Jesus". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatrickStormborn Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 I think it's important while watching this scene to sympathise with the 163 slave children who were nailed up. The screams of the Great Masters mean very little to me with that in mind. I don't particularly agree with Dany's actions (I think she should have stripped the masters of all their wealth and exiled them), but it was an important symbol to the people of Meereen: the lives of slaves and the lives of the masters are equal. Of course, problems eventually emerge because Dany doesn't continue to be this ruthless - she tries to win them over after she has already alienated them (but that is mostly because she never intended to rule the city in the first place and doesn't really think about the long-term implications of her actions - a huge oversight, of course). Yes, Barristan is Dany's Davos now, her "good angel". I kinda almost write that example :lol:. With Dany, I guess they're only trying to show us both sides of the story. We often complain about not having an "Essos POV" about her, and now we have it: the slavers are more than grateful that she free them and kill their abusers, so, her actions are shown "good" to their eyes. Barristan, a man with more experience in both battle and life, realises that she has a simplistic definition of revenge: eye for an eye, and that caused her father to be called "mad King" That's not at all why Aerys was called the Mad King. He raped his wife, refused to allow anyone with blades near him, planned to burn King's Landing, etc. etc. Dany is vengeful and has extreme notions of justice - but "an eye for an eye" is still considered a form of justice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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