Koi No Yokan Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 If you're right then that's OVER-doing it. That connection had been made when Olenna said "oh but I do". The chain tug struck me as meaning something else. I was thinking the key to Tommen's chambers or something. I don't see how fiddling with a necklace is over-doing it, but okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ground_control Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 This rules out any doubt. Queen of Thorns poisoned Joff and the theory why by Littlefinger is that they promote stability and he likes that. No. Littlefinger likes the Tyrell's because they are predictable (to him) not that they promote stability (for the realm). BIG difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesterX Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 I don't see how fiddling with a necklace is over-doing it, but okay. Because it suggested something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salmonsnake Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 I, too, hope this isn't the last we see of Olenna. The show was very successful with regard to her scenes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chebyshov Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 I, too, hope this isn't the last we see of Olenna. The show was very successful with regard to her scenes. Maybe we could get her in Highgarden to learn the news of the Iron-born attack, or something. I can't imagine they wouldn't want to use her again. That being said, I'm happy to see a pivot to Marg vs. Cersei more directly, rather than Marg and QoT being snarky all day 'er day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Monkey Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 It seems strange that Margaery wasn't in on it, or at least knew about it. I mean, what would've prevented her from accidentally drinking from Joffrey's cup during the wedding? Maybe Olenne slipped her some antidotes before... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bungholes First Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Fan favorite character leaves on the very same episode that reveals she was involved in killing the most hated character? I can't see any reason not to bring her back. She should be there for Tywin's funeral at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoo Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 I thought Marg would be more offended by the fact she is/was a pawn in QoT's game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chebyshov Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 It seems strange that Margaery wasn't in on it, or at least knew about it. I mean, what would've prevented her from accidentally drinking from Joffrey's cup during the wedding? Maybe Olenne slipped her some antidotes before... I think Olenna needed Marg's reaction to look natural. Book!Marg definitely knew about what was going down, but because Show!Marg had a separate cup, keeping her in the dark was to her benefit. When Olenna did the poisoning, there was already attention on Joffrey's cup (Tyrion being his wine-bearer), so she probably assumed Marg wouldn't suddenly drink out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mos Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 In the trailer, wasn't Grandma Tyrell seen in the scene where Tyrion is led into the throne room for his trial? Or maybe that was just another old fart with the same hat. If she does leave King's Landing for now, I really hope she'll be back next season. Tywin's wake or the marriage of Tommen and Margaery seems like the best fit for her return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daenerys Targaryen's slave Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Olenna is one cold bitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hippocras Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 She might return next season for that.I am starting to think she might show up in the Vale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daenerys Targaryen's slave Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Anyone else see Margaery's face when Olenna told her the story of how she stole her sister's husband? Margaery was all :D Then she was like :bs: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Harbors Wrath Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 If you're right then that's OVER-doing it. That connection had been made when Olenna said "oh but I do". The chain tug struck me as meaning something else. I was thinking the key to Tommen's chambers or something. Literally...what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesterX Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Literally...what? As if there was a key on her chain that led into Tommen's bed chamber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hippocras Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 No, the chain tug was to show the viewers how she got the poison from Sansa at the wedding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faydra Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Does Olenna's story about the Targaryen suitor confirm the theory about her being engaged to Duncan and eventually spurned? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesterX Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 No, the chain tug was to show the viewers how she got the poison from Sansa at the wedding. No one would place that connection unless they already know that's exactly how Olenna did it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koi No Yokan Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 No one would place that connection unless they already know that's exactly how Olenna did it. What? You mean LF asking if Sansa noticed a stone missing from her necklace? Que LF talking about new friends and saying the Tyrell words "Growing Strong", over Olenna and Margaery walking through the gardens. Olenna outright confirms Tyrion wasn't involved in Joff's murder, then says she wouldn't let Marg marry "that beast". Plays with Marg's necklace. Boom, connection made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Harbors Wrath Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 As if there was a key on her chain that led into Tommen's bed chamber. It was just a hamfisted reference for show viewers. I discuss this show with people every Monday morning who have not read the books. It's staggering the amount of things they miss that seem plain as day. They need to be smacked right in the face with things most of the time. Why would Olenna have a chain created just to hold a key...you're looking way too deeply into that one. It's not like any of the kings guard are proficient at protecting kings there. Marg probably walked right in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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