Who wants Bran to meet Jon? [ Book Spoilers ]

[Panther2000]

I don't see them meeting up at all. I think that they will have a Hit & Miss once again. With all the mess going on I think that Hordor will break loose grab Bran & High tail it out of there. I do think that Both Summer & Ghost will have a Reunion or sorts & help TKW take out the traitors. Then of course summer will follow Bran ( unless this is where summer gets injured) he did after all fall in that Dead Fall. I don't see bran & jon meeting up. Jon will never allow Bran to go on north & Jon will not leave TKW. I do love that fact that once again so close, so far.

[Panther2000]

Now, I do think they still will meet CH & I also think that they will still meet the man in the Cave( I am still trying to figure that 1 out. Who the Hell was that Masked man :laugh:). They can't take out bran & Co. getting attacked by TO. That was a great action part, just like Dawn of The Dead, rising out of the ground. They left out CH with Sam & Gilly, I think for the better part of being with & Saving Bran

[rmholt]

Show!Jojen tells Bran that his father has never talked about Robert's Rebellion. I think the likelihood that Jojen will spill the beans about R+L=J or that he will even talk to Jon in the upcoming episode are extremely low.

Ok I forgot that. To be honest I haven't even noticed people thinking Jojen will have any effect on Jon's life in the show.

I can't figure out the fixation with Coldhands.

[CandleWisps]

Show!Jojen tells Bran that his father has never talked about Robert's Rebellion. I think the likelihood that Jojen will spill the beans about R+L=J or that he will even talk to Jon in the upcoming episode are extremely low.

I agree the likelihood is extremely low. Even if ShowJojen knows the truth, which I think he does simply through his own visions, I doubt he would tell Jon. R+L=J seems to be something Jojen would keep heavily under wraps until it was the right time or a need arose

[Big Daddy]

I wonder if they had Sam tell Jon about Bran being alive (and by default, Rickon too) for more than one reason?

Chiefly, I think it was just awkward and unbelievable that Sam didn't tell Jon in the book. It irritates me to no end every time I read that and it pulls me out of the book.

Secondly, I wonder if they have Same leaving the Wall with Aemon later than the book, if at all? If D&D are privy to information that Sam's journey isn't all that vital, they may cut it altogether. Giving Sam his own mission is an entirely new location, sets and cast that would need to be put together. I can see the incentive to do away with it and keep Sam around for Jon to interact with.

And it might explain why Sam out of the blue put Gilly in Moletown.

Finally, I'm going with "near miss" too. It's such a common theme in the book series.

[CandleWisps]

I wonder if they had Sam tell Jon about Bran being alive (and by default, Rickon too) for more than one reason?

Chiefly, I think it was just awkward and unbelievable that Sam didn't tell Jon in the book. It irritates me to no end every time I read that and it pulls me out of the book.

Secondly, I wonder if they have Same leaving the Wall with Aemon later than the book, if at all? If D&D are privy to information that Sam's journey isn't all that vital, they may cut it altogether. Giving Sam his own mission is an entirely new location, sets and cast that would need to be put together. I can see the incentive to do away with it and keep Sam around for Jon to interact with.

And it might explain why Sam out of the blue put Gilly in Moletown.

Finally, I'm going with "near miss" too. It's such a common theme in the book series.

I'm gonna hold my breath that they dont go this route. It makes sense that they would to save time and budget, and since it seems they've also also completely foregone Mance's baby storyline reducing the need to get the hell out of dodge. But then what are we gonna do with Maester Aemon? It's been pretty well established by Melissandre the power King's blood has, so they can't just ignore his presence. If they plan to kill him for Stannis' benefit I'll riot

Also, what about the potential storyline Sam serves by arriving in Oldtown? Alleras/Sarella and the Old Maesters plot involving Dany the dragons, etc.

It makes sense that they would cut all this out, and I guess they could merge someone elses storyline to fit into Oldtown, I'm just gonna hold my breath for now and pray that Maeser Aemon gets to pass away peacefully in his sleep

[Impish]

I'm also going to completely ignore how the show's meanderings nullify the possibility of Jon being legitimized as a Stark the way Robb or Stannis intended.

If Rhaegar and Lyanna eloped, Jon is already a legitimate son of both houses... we just need a key witness (paging Mr. Reed?) to come forward.

[direwoofwoof]

As much as I want Jon and Bran to reconnect in person on the show, it did not happen in the book that way and I don't see it happening on HBO. I like the theory about them meeting while warging.

Jojen looked so sick in the last episode. I think he is worried about Bran's journey and nothing else, certainly not Jon's heritage.

[Dany's Silver]

If Rhaegar and Lyanna eloped, Jon is already a legitimate son of both houses... we just need a key witness (paging Mr. Reed?) to come forward.

Well, IIRC Robb's will was sent to Howland Reed, and he could have some major surprises in store for the people who delivered the will: "Jon's not just the King in the North; that boy is heir to ALL of Westeros!" Can I get my copy of The Winds of Winter now please?! :read:

[CandleWisps]

Well, IIRC Robb's will was sent to Howland Reed, and he could have some major surprises in store for the people who delivered the will: "Jon's not just the King in the North; that boy is heir to ALL of Westeros!" Can I get my copy of The Winds of Winter now please?! :read:

I don't have the books on hand, but isn't Robbs will currently with Maege Mormont? I know she had orders to go to Greywater Watch, but we haven't had any proof she made it there alive as of yet

[fuseprime]

Well, IIRC Robb's will was sent to Howland Reed, and he could have some major surprises in store for the people who delivered the will: "Jon's not just the King in the North; that boy is heir to ALL of Westeros!" Can I get my copy of The Winds of Winter now please?! :read:

Wouldn't that make for an interesting epilogue to WoW?

[Dany's Silver]

I don't have the books on hand, but isn't Robbs will currently with Maege Mormont? I know she had orders to go to Greywater Watch, but we haven't had any proof she made it there alive as of yet

No, but I reeeaaally hope that the fact she hasn't been seen for a while means she's at that the elusively located Greywater Watch.

Wouldn't that make for an interesting epilogue to WoW.

:agree:

[ToTheWolves]

Am I the only one hoping for an all out brawl? Lol just pure madness! Lol like NW vs the mutineers then WW appear, and then amongst that jon fighting off Locke...direwolves running wild all over the place!

Most likely won't happen.

[ToTheWolves]

And im hoping bran and jon don't meet up but have some kind of connection. Like as bran is fleeing the madness he sees jon get knocked out by Locke and in mortal danger, so then he opens Jon's 3rd eye, jon wargs into ghost breaks free and saves his own life.

Dun Dunn dunnn.

[sj4iy]

And im hoping bran and jon don't meet up but have some kind of connection. Like as bran is fleeing the madness he sees jon get knocked out by Locke and in mortal danger, so then he opens Jon's 3rd eye, jon wargs into ghost breaks free and saves his own life.

Dun Dunn dunnn.

That would be pretty cool, actually.

[It's Not That Littlefinger]

i dont bran would run away during the battle. at least he would stay near by to see the aftermath. wouldnt he think that jon might be comming to save him (not to save him, but to kill the others).

i would be totally fine with them meeting each other if there is a good enough reason for bran continuing north. i was skeptical about jon going on him mission, but he had a dood reason, so i was cool with it. i hope they can repeat that because i would like to see a reunion

[Tytus]

Bran can speak through Hodor's mouth when he's warging him right? He should be able to if he can control the rest of his body. I want to see Jon and Bran to meet up except Bran is in Hodor :D

[One was naked.]

I'm also thinking Bran's warging ability gets them out of Craster's before Jon arrives and will be used to show that Bran's power is growing. How far fetched would it be for Bran to warg somebody a bit more sentient, say, like Rast?

We have both of his established warging targets out of commission, with Summer in a pit and Hodor chained and injured. Ghost's in a cage too, so not an option. We have Karl (as tedious as his speech was, it probably wasn't pointless) declaring himself "a legend" who could take any knight in a fight and Rast, when challenged by Karl admitting that he "wouldn't stand a chance." Rast is being bullied- prime set up for him to stand up to Karl, even though he lacks the confidence (says to Hodor, "if I had your size, I'd be king of the fooking world.") We have Rast demonstrating his marginal intelligence (susceptible to being warged, like Hodor) by falling over and failing to feed Ghost, despite Ghost being in a cage.

My money is on Bran warging Rast and killing Karl in a swordfight. In the Chaos, Craster's wives have their own backstabbing mutiny (more satisfying revenge) against the raper mutineers, and Bran et al. escape in the commotion, freeing Hodor, Summer, and Ghost on their way out. All but Ghost head north. Ghost reunites with Jon who then arrives at the now free house of Craster, whose wives want little to do with more Night's Watch, other than to tell them their brothers are already dead as a warning. Mance's army is then sighted, causing them to make tracks back to the wall.

[Ābra]

I hope that they will not meet. There may be some clues for one or the other, but actual meeting. It is an adaptation so there may be changes, it doesn't bother me, but not a change of this type.

There may be a rebellion of women of Craster, but I think that it will happen at the time or Jon and his brothers arrive. In the trailer we see Jon fighting with one of the men of Karl. After they can develop a little Bran because once the season 4 complete, I feel that writers should fill a minimum history to wait the spectators. Unless the volume 6 was released before the season 5 (or during) and it expands the story of Bran. I wonder how they will present us the passage at Craster.

I can't wait.

[Dany's Silver]

I'm also thinking Bran's warging ability gets them out of Craster's before Jon arrives and will be used to show that Bran's power is growing. How far fetched would it be for Bran to warg somebody a bit more sentient, say, like Rast?

We have both of his established warging targets out of commission, with Summer in a pit and Hodor chained and injured. Ghost's in a cage too, so not an option. We have Karl (as tedious as his speech was, it probably wasn't pointless) declaring himself "a legend" who could take any knight in a fight and Rast, when challenged by Karl admitting that he "wouldn't stand a chance." Rast is being bullied- prime set up for him to stand up to Karl, even though he lacks the confidence (says to Hodor, "if I had your size, I'd be king of the fooking world.") We have Rast demonstrating his marginal intelligence (susceptible to being warged, like Hodor) by falling over and failing to feed Ghost, despite Ghost being in a cage.

My money is on Bran warging Rast and killing Karl in a swordfight. In the Chaos, Craster's wives have their own backstabbing mutiny (more satisfying revenge) against the raper mutineers, and Bran et al. escape in the commotion, freeing Hodor, Summer, and Ghost on their way out. All but Ghost head north. Ghost reunites with Jon who then arrives at the now free house of Craster, whose wives want little to do with more Night's Watch, other than to tell them their brothers are already dead as a warning. Mance's army is then sighted, causing them to make tracks back to the wall.

I can't see Bran ever warging Ghost, let alone warging Ghost before Show!Jon does. I also can't see Bran warging a human being other than Hodor, not just because warging another human being is wrong, but because I suspect that the effects of warging go both ways; ie. the warg and the wargee (if you will) may both experience changes. I don't think a sweet soul like Bran would want to warg into a nasty piece of work like Rast (or Karl!) anyway. He might contract the equivalent of a warging STD! :P