[Spoilers] Lady Stoneheart

[Sans A Stark in Winterfell]

Medieval Funtime Land straight up makes me lose my shit, I get abs in under a minute from that gem. And the Nights King threw me for the biggest loop, its been days and I'm still trying to wrap my head around it. I'm excited and reallyyyy hesitant for getting more than we expected this season though. It was exciting with the White Walker/Nights King ending we got, knowing that indeed book readers would be getting tidbits that turn us into Unsullied. Its exhilirating, for once, to not know what is coming around the corner

I can't take Jamie serious anymore because it really sounds like he's whispering!

The whole reason I began the book was to not be surprised anymore and know the ending. And look at where that's got me now... I didn't want anymore surprises after Jamie's hand and someone had already spoiled the RW for me.

I was expecting LSH to be in 401, and I kind of wished she were because I don't want her to overshadow or get overshadowed by the rest of season events.

[CandleWisps]

I can't take Jamie serious anymore because it really sounds like he's whispering!

The whole reason I began the book was to not be surprised anymore and know the ending. And look at where that's got me now... I didn't want anymore surprises after Jamie's hand and someone had already spoiled the RW for me.

I was expecting LSH to be in 401, and I kind of wished she were because I don't want her to overshadow or get overshadowed by the rest of season events.

I can't look at Viserys without remembering that he kissed Johnny Schatzman :lmao:

All the surprises leave me hesitant, because I don't know what the show is including thats book canon and what is simply a consequence of the 'butterfly effect' from show!canon. It's going to be confusing down the road trying to figure that out until George blesses us with the gift of the WoW. And I was expecting to see LS in the season 3 finale, given that it was called Mhysa and could have fit well with the timing for Nymeria to drag her from the river. But D&D wanted a lasting suprise factor/impact which I understand. But I agree, I really don't her to get overshadowed, but at this point I don't think theres any avoiding it. The pacing and progression of Briennes plot says to me that its more likely she won't cross the BwB until near the finale, saving her "hanging" by UnCat till Season 5. But there will already be so much jam-packed into the finale that I don't know whether to hyperventilate with joy at the prospect or cry because the individual storylines won't each get the attention they deserve :(

[Hippocras]

Oathkeeper has it's own story though. I'd actually hate to see Oathkeeper become Lightbringer, believe it or not. Oathkeeper has it's own history, transformation, and future. I wouldn't soil it with religious fanaticism.

Let Oathkeeper be Oathkeeper.

Lion's Tooth, should become Lightbringer, when it's found by Elder Brother after washing down the river, and given to Sandor, as the gravedigger.

I actually agree. I avoided posting my entire theory on this thread because it is off topic, but in my preferred version Oathkeeper stays as it is, and stays on its current mission to find and serve Sansa.

What I want to see happen is Jamie sent to get Widow's Wail and find Arya. But before he can get Widow's Wail, a lot of shit will go down in KL. Widow's Wail will be used to murder Tommen or Myrcella. Then it will be merged with Blackfyre to hide that Aegon is fake and make a new sword for him when he becomes King.

When Aegon is defeated, that combined sword will make its way to Jon, being the merged Targ-Stark sword.

But, Thoros's group and the resurrection of Cat still serves the purpose of the sword forging, because she is the one obsessed with the vow to return her daughters and the sword Ice. So she will pass on that mission to Jamie.

[CandleWisps]

I actually agree. I avoided posting my entire theory on this thread because it is off topic, but in my preferred version Oathkeeper stays as it is, and stays on its current mission to find and serve Sansa.

What I want to see happen is Jamie sent to get Widow's Wail and find Arya. But before he can get Widow's Wail, a lot of shit will go down in KL. Widow's Wail will be used to murder Tommen or Myrcella. Then it will be merged with Blackfyre to hide that Aegon is fake and make a new sword for him when he becomes King.

When Aegon is defeated, that combined sword will make its way to Jon, being the merged Targ-Stark sword.

But thats assuming Blackfyre is found by the WoW. It is assumed that the Golden Company has it (therefore giving "Aegon" opportunity to get his hands on it), but it is not specifically stated yet that Blackfyre remained with them after Bittersteels death. It's hard to imagine it would be lost, after all Valyrian steel is so precious and rare that you think one would keep an eye on it, but personally I'm still waiting for it to surface with proof

[Hippocras]

But thats assuming Blackfyre is found by the WoW. It is assumed that the Golden Company has it (therefore giving "Aegon" opportunity to get his hands on it), but it is not specifically stated yet that Blackfyre remained with them after Bittersteels death. It's hard to imagine it would be lost, after all Valyrian steel is so precious and rare that you think one would keep an eye on it, but personally I'm still waiting for it to surface with proof

A lot of people think Blackfyre was what Illyrio wanted to give to Aegon when Tyrion left him. Remember he had some sort of package but Haldon insisted they didn't have time for Illyrio to give it to Aegon? That package was probably a sword.

[CandleWisps]

A lot of people think Blackfyre was what Illyrio wanted to give to Aegon when Tyrion left him. Remember he had some sort of package but Haldon insisted they didn't have time for Illyrio to give it to Aegon? That package was probably a sword.

Oh really? I hadnt actually thought of that before, I'lll have to go reread that chapter. Is there any thread where thiis is particularly discussed?

[ToTheWolves]

2 questions!

1. Is next season going to be a combo of AFFC & ADWD.

2.cant remember has there been anything to lead towards sansa or arya having to kill lady stoneheart? I would like that.

[salmonsnake]

1. Is next season going to be a combo of AFFC & ADWD.

Yes, and probably with a lot of elements from TWOW as well, given how close some of the main character arcs are to their published ends

[ToTheWolves]

Yes, and probably with a lot of elements from TWOW as well, given how close some of the main character arcs are to their published ends

Oh man so with them only doing 7 seasons they're probably going to start dropping some big spoilers then.

[CandleWisps]

Oh man so with them only doing 7 seasons they're probably going to start dropping some big spoilers then.

I thought D&D said that ideally they would have 8 seasons, and that that was what they planned for

[trgryn-strk-lnstr-mrtell]

I thought D&D said that ideally they would have 8 seasons, and that that was what they planned for

I think they are hoping for 8 seasons but HBO probably giving them 7 for now and most likely will go for 8 since shows a super hit [emoji16]

[CandleWisps]

I think they are hoping for 8 seasons but HBO probably giving them 7 for now and most likely will go for 8 since shows a super hit [emoji16]

We can only hope :(

[MercyTheBlindUglyLittleCat]

Oh Stoneheart is happening. There's just no way the show would lose that thread. Its pretty much the perfect season ender, especially if Only Cat is in episode 10.

[Haus of Targaryen]

I imagine the big reveal is going to be the last scene of the season. The Brotherhood will fish a mysterious body of out of the river, Beric will pray over her, he will collapse, and the camera will pan to Cat's face. Her eyes will open - cut to black, roll credits.

This is exactly how I envisioned this season ending as well, like literally exactly

[HairGrowsBack]

This is exactly how I envisioned this season ending as well, like literally exactly

I doubt it. At this point she has to be already brought back, elsewise she would be dead for way to long for the 'spell' or whatever to work. I think the season will end with LS being already active in the Frey killing section, possibly through Brienne's eyes.

[CandleWisps]

I doubt it. At this point she has to be already brought back, elsewise she would be dead for way to long for the 'spell' or whatever to work. I think the season will end with LS being already active in the Frey killing section, possibly through Brienne's eyes.

Not only would the spell not work, but her body would be bloated and rotting from so long in the river. It would have been nice to see Nymeria drag her out (yay direwolves!) but its unrealistic

[HairGrowsBack]

Not only would the spell not work, but her body would be bloated and rotting from so long in the river. It would have been nice to see Nymeria drag her out (yay direwolves!) but its unrealistic

This also.

And I agree the lack of warging from the Stark siblings (other than Bran) is disappointing.

[ToTheWolves]

This also.

And I agree the lack of warging from the Stark siblings (other than Bran) is disappointing.

Extremely disappointing...

[Seneti]

This also.

And I agree the lack of warging from the Stark siblings (other than Bran) is disappointing.

I think that we'll see the other Stark siblings warg, but only once it becomes truly relevant, i. e. for Arya, while she is in Bravos, for Jon shortly before the mutiny. It's an important plot point for both of them and D&D may drop character points but not important plot points. Just look at how many people thought that they'd cut Ramsay, yet we were introduced to him. As soon as he became truly important for the plot.

[Drogon's Personal Trainer]

I hope her reveal is after the credits, so everybody freaks out when they miss it.

Yeah, I'm a bad person.

NOOOOOOO! Spare a thought for us in the UK. Stupid Sky Atlantic always minimalises the credits while they announce crap like Thronecast and other shit over it. I think I'd die! :)