Widows_Blood Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 I gave it a 7. Lowest grade so far for me. I did enjoy most of the episode. This was just one of those episodes to set up future storylines. The trial and Vale plots specifically. Some of the exposition was kinda clunky, could do without that Cersei-Margarey scene. I really liked Sansa-Lysa. Thought that was really well done scene that will pay off down the line. Particularly enjoyed Sansa manipulating Lysa. Enjoyed most of what happened at Crasters alot as well. Wished Jon would have killed Karl without any interference though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarl the climber Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 An all around interesting episode, a little slow, but a lot of info that moved the plot along. Most interesting tidbit was that the Lannister gold mines are not producing anymore. Interesting, I wonder if this diverges from the books or if the same factor is at work as well? Sort of backs my thoery that the Lannister incomes are dependent on the throne repaying the loans Tywin made to it. Never understood Tywins all or nothing attitude but if the base of Lannister power has failed it makes sense. I gave it a 7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Blake Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 (edited) Definitely the weakest of the season so far. It just had a weird feeling throughout, and all of the scenes felt like they were just thrown together haphazardly. The long Cersei scenes just didn't do anything for me. I understand they are showing she is trying to persuade the judges but they just all felt unnecessary and they all fell flat to me. Same goes for the Brienne and Pod scenes which were just meh to me. I did really enjoy all of the arya/houn and sansa/littlefinger/lysa scenes. With the exception of her spoiling the murder of Jon Arryn, which I don't understand why they felt the need to reveal it early. Its such a integral part of one of GRRM best chapters, and yet they just wasted it in the middle of a middle season episode like it was no big deal. I have no problem with changes but this one I just don't get. On the bright side the next episode should be best of the season. A Bryan Cogman written trial scene is sure to be phenomenal. Edited May 5, 2014 by Ser Blake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingOfTheRock Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 Good episode, but didn't like it as much as the rest of the season so far. 7. The Crasters Keep story this episode was good and I liked Arya/Hound too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konradsmith Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 (edited) I gave it an eight. It would've been a seven but the end saved it. Lysa's return was welcome and Sansa overhearing her wedding night was a nice comedic note from the books. Edited May 5, 2014 by Konradsmith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiola Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 I am so pissed about them bumping up the Jon Arryn reveal that I want to give this episode, like, a 2. But I thought Thomas Brodie-Sangster was totally on point tonight. The way his voice got very low when he was telling Karl how he saw him die was brilliantly creepy. So much malice. And I loved Pod burning the rabbit. There were other good moments too but those are the ones that stick out at me enough to bump up the score to a 6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ServantOnIce Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 9/10 Best episode since the season opener. Great episode.9/10 Solid episdoe1. Great Acting, great writing.2. Good fight scenes, I loved not knowing what was going to happen with Jon and Bran.3. Locke's death shocked me. I thought he was going to be Bowen Marsh, but that would have been too obvious . . .4. Locke had to kidnap Bran and kill him somewhere else. Then bring his corpse or his flayed skin to Roose. Roose would need proof of the kill.5. It reminded me of the scene in, "Boardwalk Empire" when the lady stabbed Karl in the back. Just like it happened when Mr.Whatever fought Chalky White. Same scene but not as intense as the BE scene.6. Lena Headey acted great, E. Clarke struggles with real dialogue, Iain Glen acted very well. Dany made the mistake now we are in the, "Mereenese Knot."7. Next week is going total fan fiction with Davos in Braavos, The Ironborn at the Dreadfort, that is going to be something.Bring it on Dave an Dan! Great TV! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWhiteRabbit Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 (edited) Are you guys nuts? Weakest episode of the bunch? IT was great! Everything Vale/Arya/Jon/Oberyn was pretty fantastic. Just because it's the weakest of the season doesn't mean it was bad. I think this has been the best first half of any season so far. Episodes 1-4 were all 9's or 10's IMO. We were due for a kind of average affair. Just by viewing the promo I can already tell next week will be far better: trial, Yara vs. Ramsey, etc. Edited May 5, 2014 by TheWhiteRabbit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Señor de la Tormenta Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 An all around interesting episode, a little slow, but a lot of info that moved the plot along. Most interesting tidbit was that the Lannister gold mines are not producing anymore. Interesting, I wonder if this diverges from the books or if the same factor is at work as well? Sort of backs my thoery that the Lannister incomes are dependent on the throne repaying the loans Tywin made to it. Never understood Tywins all or nothing attitude but if the base of Lannister power has failed it makes sense. I gave it a 7.nah....They are rich as always in the books. Tyron doesnt worry about how he is paying the Second sons...and Kevan worries he has to start paying the crown debts with Lannister money...And they got the Reynes mines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pure Guava Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 Good, bad. Meh. The books have plenty moments where "nothing is happening" but your quench for depth is being sated. This was one of those episodes...with a salting of nice action scenes. No complaints here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sansafan14 Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 I gave it a 4. Lots of filler conversations. I did laugh for a while when Sansa had to endure Lysa s screaming. That was ridiculiously funny. As for the end, way too predictable! How many fans were waiting for Hodor to warg into Bran and free everyone. I usually stay up to watch a second time but not this episode. Good to see Arya waterdancing again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sj4iy Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 Loved it. Even better than last week's episode. Arya's water dancing, Lysa showing her insanity, the Lannisters are broke and finally, the ending that had everything I ever wanted in it. 10/10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonCon's Red Beard Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 Just because it's the weakest of the season doesn't mean it was bad. Actually, it's the lack of important shocking events what makes the episode looks "bad" to some. We can't have Kings dying every episode, isn't? And last week episode set the bar too high, sadly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ServantOnIce Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 7/10 Good episode, but nothing really big happened. My only complains are all small ones, like Rast death (I know all the CGI budget goes to the dragons, but we deserved to see some direwolf badassery) or Dany scene feels to rushed again, like they could have explain her reason to stay a bit better, and how the hell the news of Joff's death arrive so fast LOL Dothraki Express!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiola Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 How many fans were waiting for Hodor to warg into Bran and free everyone I don't think too many of us were expecting that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sj4iy Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 I gave it a 4. Lots of filler conversations. I did laugh for a while when Sansa had to endure Lysa s screaming. That was ridiculiously funny. As for the end, way too predictable! How many fans were waiting for Hodor to warg into Bran and free everyone. I usually stay up to watch a second time but not this episode. Good to see Arya waterdancing again! Well, given that the show is often full of unpredictability, I think that a more predictable ending is actually quite unpredictable. Locke's death was definitely unpredictable, but I was very glad to see Tanner and Rast get their just desserts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolf Ruiz Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 It was a 9 for me. I disliked the Margaery-Cersei and the changes to Sansa storyline. The reveal of Lysa killing Jon made say out loud "WHAT?" but I'm ok being surprised by the show (like last week). I see the show with my Unsullied wife, and we enjoyed very much the Arya-Hound and Pod-Brienne parts. We got some good laughs there. I didn't liked very much how they were changing Bran storyline but I guess it's ok how they handled it today. The show doesn't show a lot of magic stuff and they have to create a bridge so show watchers can assimilate what is next. I expected Locke to have a confrontation with Jon and I was pleased they didn't. I don't know why people say nothing happened in this episode. I explained my wife a lot of stuff between scenes (Oberyn's daughters to name an example). Non book readers need to understand and get familiarized with the Iron Bank of Braavos, they need to understand Dany's forces are still laughable compared to anything in Westeros. I usually re-watch each episode between 3 to 4 times the week it airs, this one is gonna be one of those that makes to 4-5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady White Wolf Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 I gave it a solid 9 - I didn't even realize 45 minutes had gone by. Lots of information, but my favorite part was Sansa and nutty Lysa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ServantOnIce Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 Weakest of the Season? Episodes 3 and 4 stank . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P. frontalis chiripepe Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 It was a slower episode than some others, but still a good episode. Not the best this season, by any means. I'd give it an 8.11 repeating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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