Lord Thornhart Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Overall, this was clearly something that shouldn't have been left on a cliffhanger for half a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wunhopkuendo Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 I also felt that the scene was clumsy at best and just not good, but I'm willing to let it slide as I feel that this hasn't been the case for the majority of the show thus far. And the Theon scene after was just awesome. Theon really did look like a little abused puppy dog when he was afraid to look Ramsey in the eye and kept dropping his head every time he looked up. Just superb acting right there. Some of the best in the series so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruin Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 I'm not a fan of this plotline, and it would have been better just introducing Euron and/or Victarion, or just having Aeron drown a Maester. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Envie Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 I also felt that the scene was clumsy at best and just not good, but I'm willing to let it slide as I feel that this hasn't been the case for the majority of the show thus far. And the Theon scene after was just awesome. Theon really did look like a little abused puppy dog when he was afraid to look Ramsey in the eye and kept dropping his head every time he looked up. Just superb acting right there. Some of the best in the series so far. Yeah, I've come to this same conclusion and am ready to stop arguing about the scene's obvious lack of sense and believable bits that have now been beaten more than Theon was beaten, hehe. I think we all just need to let it go (queue Frozen song). But seriously - you're right. Alfie Allen's amazing performance carried the scene and made it worthwhile even if I didn't like the short chopped up way they handled the Ironborn 'invasion' (more like a kid's paintball confrontation). I've re-watched the scene and now appreciate it ONLY for the fact that Alfie's incredible performance made his total transformation into Reek once and for all concrete and real. No more speculation if Theon is just 'acting' the part of Reek and biding his time for the right moment to kill Ramsay - nope. It's obvious he's totally 100% gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'll pay the iron price Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Not a bad scene.Yara saw Theon but realised he was a lost cause - if she had dragged him back to Pyke then Balon would have taken one look at him and probably thrown him into the sea himself. I was hoping that big dude with the blackbeard that the camera focused on at the end of season 3 would have had a role (Yara's own Luca Brasi)All in all the Dreadfort scene could have been better but it didnt suck either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'll pay the iron price Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Where was Roose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadwood Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 I was hoping that big dude with the blackbeard that the camera focused on at the end of season 3 would have had a role (Yara's own Luca Brasi)All in all the Dreadfort scene could have been better but it didnt suck either.Probably just an extra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywolf2375 Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Not a bad scene. Yara saw Theon but realised he was a lost cause - if she had dragged him back to Pyke then Balon would have taken one look at him and probably thrown him into the sea himself. That might be true, but then at least it was their call to have him die. Now she knowlingly has left her brother to be a toy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormland's Fury Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Where was Roose? Making sweet love to Walda. But seriously, at least he probably would like to know what all the commotion was about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hath4 Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 He left to return to his forces in the riverlands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormland's Fury Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 He left to return to his forces in the riverlands. Ramsay has yet to retake Moat Cailin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hath4 Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 He prusubly smuggled himself back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pod The Impaler Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Where was Roose? I guess he was out on a trip with the wife. Then he comes home and Ramsay gets in shit: "We leave the house for a weekend, and behind our backs you have a party and wreck the place." "But dad, those Ironborn weren't even invited !" "I told you no parties, you irresponsible brat. And don't think I didn't find out that you had some girl in my bed - parts of her are still in there." "But dad ..." "No buts. You and Reek are grounded. You're going to clean this place up by ADWD, or no trip to Winterfell for you." " Fascist." "What was that, boy?" "Nothing." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormland's Fury Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 He prusubly smuggled himself back. Did he? He wasn't really a fan of smuggling himself to the Dreadfort in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'll pay the iron price Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 If Roose was in residence then surely he would have materialised - the Dreadfort and its men are HIS after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormland's Fury Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 If Roose was in residence then surely he would have materialised - the Dreadfort and its men are HIS after all. Do you really think they had seconds to spare to squeeze Roose in there? The schedule was already full with that riveting Ironborn escape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wunhopkuendo Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 The dreadfort is probably pretty large. I imagine Roose would have been about as far away from the dungeons/kennels as possible in his cozy lord's chambers, whereas that psycho Ramsey enjoys doing it with chicks in the weirdest places, which is why he was able to get there so quickly. As for the whole sneak attack, I have decided that in my mind Yara sneaks in with a handful of ironborn, while the rest are split into diversion and escape duties. He plan is to get in and get out with Theon and have a small army to help her escape. It doesn't go as well as planned (especially since Theon was in the kennels and not dungeon) and seeing Theon's state, she is forced to escape while she can. As for Theon being not skinny enough, that's book Theon not show Theon. Just because Ramsey in the show is flaying and torturing Theon, doesn't mean he wants to starve him. He is treating him like a dog, probably feeding him leftover table scraps and chunks of meat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frey Pentos Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Problem with the scene was the terrible editing that made it look like the IB had comically run away from a couple of dogs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'll pay the iron price Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Do you really think they had seconds to spare to squeeze Roose in there? The schedule was already full with that riveting Ironborn escape. Well just prior to the bath scene perhaps a quick Roose/Ramsay scene. Roose says "Get on with the Moat Caillin job" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aFeastForDragons Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 If Asha was there she would have put an axe into Ramsey's head and dragged Theon back to her ship. Stupid scene but still very enjoyable. If Ramsey is able to cut through seasoned Iron Born topless then he could take both Barristan and Loras Tyrell in full plate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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