Bael's Bastard Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Where does it say they worship turtles in general? As far as I recall they consider the gigantic turtles to be consorts of Mother Rhoyne. Even so, in Dune Fremen consider the giant sandworm to be a deity, but that doesn't stop them from using their teeth as knives, and drowning smaller ones to create a ritual narcotic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumHam Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Why would they worship turtles and yet also kill a quarter of a million of them to make shields? The Valyrians kill the sacred turtle. There must be war! Kill every last turtle to make shields! They only consider those giant turtles to be sacred. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Annaly Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 The shields may not really be actual turtle shells...they have fish head helms but no one expects them to be actual fish heads...could get a bit pungent in there! Most likely Giant Turtle shells would be way too big to be carrying around so probably shells of lesser species of turtles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrion1991 Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 The shields may not really be actual turtle shells...they have fish head helms but no one expects them to be actual fish heads...could get a bit pungent in there! Most likely Giant Turtle shells would be way too big to be carrying around so probably shells of lesser species of turtles. You could make one hell of a battering ram out of a giant turtle shell. Be useful in a siege as well. Also, they murdered a 1/4 of a million turtles! :O Amazed there are still any species of regular turtle left in the Rhoyne after centuries of being killed for their shells. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs.Grumpy Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Maybe the shields are painted to look like a turtle's shell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrion1991 Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 I had no idea the dragonlords of Valyria were associated with Greenpeace. How dare the Rhoynish kill those turtles! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veltigar Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 I know you are trolling but just in case... obviously the shields only look like turtle's shell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bael's Bastard Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 I know you are trolling Exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ran Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 I think Drummond's painting makes it pretty plain. Turtle shell-shaped, not actually-of-tortoise-shell. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chatty Duelist Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 The Rhoynar are hilariously cartoonish. Fish helmets? Turtle shell shields? Water wizards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs.Grumpy Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Ran, is there any mention of air magic (please say yes :rofl: ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mithras Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Ran, is there any mention of air magic (please say yes :rofl: ) There are a lot of magic winds caused by blood sacrifices. Some people think that Balon was killed by an air magic spell, not a FM. Euron claims to be the first storm and the last. Aeron suspects that he is an agent of the Storm God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs.Grumpy Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 There are a lot of magic winds caused by blood sacrifices. Some people think that Balon was killed by an air magic spell, not a FM. Euron claims to be the first storm and the last. Aeron suspects that he is an agent of the Storm God. Well, yeah. We've heard of aeromancers and stormsingers in aGoT, and then there is sacrifices for favorable winds, words carried off by wind etc. But it would be sweet if learn more about it in the worldbook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moondancer Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 I need this book like... Yesterday. I made a plan in which order to read about dragon kings. The excerpt is so fine. The Rhoynar captured my heart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Northman Reborn Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 The excerpt was a welcome breath of fresh air with its return to some more traditional fantasy elements like mile high waterspouts raises by Water wizards to combat the unfair advantage that the Targs have had with their dragons up to now.I love it, and look forward to more of the same as the magical element of the main series is ramped up in the next two books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Vulture King Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 300 dragons?!? Do we think this is the bulk of the Valyrians dragons? I would guess roughly about half. Needing to leave at least some to defend the freehold and prolly another 1/4 to keep other regions in check like Old Ghis. Thoughts? Edit- Ran think we could or will get an answer to this? = ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Northman Reborn Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 300 dragons?!? Do we think this is the bulk of the Valyrians dragons? I would guess roughly about half. Needing to leave at least some to defend the freehold and prolly another 1/4 to keep other regions in check like Old Ghis. Thoughts? The Targs had 5, and they were supposedly a middling House out of the 40 Dragonlord Houses. Although, if the average was 5, then the total should have been around 200. I suspect the Targs were actually below average, in truth. I would imagine there were families with 20 dragons or more. If you think about it, the Targs had around a dozen dragons by the time of the Dance of the Dragons, a mere 130 years after having only 3. So theoretically, the Valyrians could have bred tens of thousands of dragons over the course of 4000 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AryaNymeriaVisenya Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Oh wow, that portrait. When people keep saying that for Arya to get power she would have to play by the rules of being a lady I always scoffed. That is what I imagined a future Arya to be like. Powerful and woman, no compromise on either. Water magic? That's awesome. I'm hoping some of those secrets passed down through the Martells.Is the hammer of the waters that the CotF did water magic? I think the COTF engaged in magic of all elements, and that the Starks of this generation represent them through Earth, Air, Fire and Water Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen Alysanne™ Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Ran, is there any mention of air magic (please say yes :rofl: ) I remember Dany said in AGOT dragons are fire and air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intheswamp Posted May 17, 2014 Share Posted May 17, 2014 I wonder if any of the Rhyonar descendants in Dorne still have knowledge of their ancestors' magic, perhaps, some of the orphans of the Greenblood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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