RedShirt47 Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 When Jon Arryn died I'm sure lords of the court would have wagered a Stag or two on who would be the replacement. Who would they be betting most silver on?Given that Robert was a disinterested king who never even bothered to attend Small Council meetins, he hadn't seen Ned for years, Ned was not a political lord and stayed well out of King's Landing I'm not thinking Ned was high on the list.I think the candidates would rank something like:LittleFinger - Jon Arryn had trusted him enough to raise him through the ranks to be Master of Coin. Been greasing the wheels of King's Landing for some time. Good relationship with the Lannisters.Tywin - Grandfather to the heir. Experience of being Hand. Knew the game well. Had the bank roll to back him up. The king's wife could ersuade the king.Renly - King's brother. Liked by many. Good relationship with Tyrells. Had the networking skills.Stannis - King's brother. Respected (if not liked) by many. A solid pair of hands who could be relied upon.Ned - Good friend to the king in the past.Other candidates?Not sure many people would have bet on Ned and when he was announced I'm sure many went "Huh?". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Baalish Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 Hoster Tully? Not sure what health he was in at the start of GoT though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joluoto2 Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 Since Robert make the picking, I doubt anyone was surprised he picked his old best buddy Ned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bright Blue Eyes Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 95%, no questions asked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SerArthurHeath Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 As Robert loved Ned more than anyone ever apart from maybe Jon Arryn and Ned's own sister? Really really probable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bael's Bastard Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 Ned was going to be offered Hand with Jon dead, no doubt. I wouldn't be surprised if he was offered it before Jon became Hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welshgaryen Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 quite high considering that he was made the hand... and by the sounds of it not long after Jon's death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bittersteel Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 "Damn you, Ned Stark. You and Jon Arryn, I loved you both. What have you done to me? You were the one should have been king, you or Jon" High, if Jon Arryn was his father, Ned was his real brother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maester Pedant Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 Considering the kind of man Robert was, choosing Ned makes perfect sense. First and foremost, Jon Arryn, the previous Hand, was his surrogate father. I doubt he ever considered his relationship with him from a "professional" point of view, or that he ever assessed Jon Arryn's actions from a political perspective. For him Jon Arryn was his father, and therefore it made sense (and was convenient) that he should rule. When he lost Jon Arryn, Robert then had to choose another Hand. And he decided to choose the man who was like a brother to him, putting sentimental considerations above political concerns. If Robert and Stannis had had a better relationship, he would have chosen Stannis. But having Stannis as Hand would require Robert to be a bit more hands-on, if only to moderate Stannis' tendency towards inflexibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Blizzardborn Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 95%, no questions asked. I'd say 99%. Ned was the only other man in the kingdom Robert trusted to tell him the truth. No way he would have given it to Tywin. He knew better than to let his goodfather get too much power and influence. The last king Tywin was Hand for ended up dead...killed by Tywin's son. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eggs Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 Pretty sure everyone thought that Ned would be asked, that he would he refuse, and that Jaime would then take the position. oh, and lolStannis.Ned was not a political lordI dont think that's a thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kinkslayer Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 33%, either him, Tywin or Jaime (sometimes you need to keep you wife happy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Blizzardborn Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 Pretty sure everyone thought that Ned would be asked, that he would he refuse, and that Jaime would then take the position.oh, and lolStannis.I dont think that's a thing.Those who know Ned might have thought he'd refuse, but a lot of people would have taken it for granted that when the king asks not even Lord Stark says no. Agreed about Stannis. Robert would be more likely to name Renly Hand, and that would be a longshot too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Santa of House Claus Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 Ned would have been the favorite choice, maybe 4:1 followed by Tywin then Stannis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormland's Fury Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 Probably Tywin, since it seems it was an open secret that the Lannisters called the shots in KL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winterfell is Burning Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Anyone that knows Robert knew Ned would have been chosen. That's why LF killed Arryn in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finnegan_stark Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Given King Robert's comment to Ned that the only reason he didn't abdicate was the thought of Cersei Joffrey ruling in his stead, there was absolutely no way Tywin or Jamie was getting the nod for Hand. No way he would have given it to Tywin. He knew better than to let his goodfather get too much power and influence. The last king Tywin was Hand for ended up dead...killed by Tywin's son. Also, the bolded sentence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin's Ghost Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 To the general populace Ned might have been a dark horse since they probably hadn't seen evidence of any affection between Robert and Ned for many years. To those in the loop, i.e. those closest to Robert, they could probably guess who would become Hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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