TheMalcolm Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 I'm guessing the word you're thinking of is "tallow". Tallow, yes. You American will doubt, but we Russian had tallow candles even 20 years ago. So we have two questions to detect some particular candle(s). Need to think about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bori Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 I thought they are made of beeswax... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yomi Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 I thought they are made of beeswax... Both possible, beeswax is nicer, tallow is cheaper as far as I know. So, what do we have: candles meant for gods/spirits/what-have-you, not seen on page, mentioned in one book only, but not in AGOT/ACOK... anything else we know? ohm and: probably shouldn't have been so grateful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a free shadow Posted May 21, 2014 Author Share Posted May 21, 2014 someone lit a candle in hopes or in gratitude, but everythig turned out badly, I suppose... They usually light candles in septs, though I barely know anything about essos. Catelyn lit candles and Sansa did, though that was on page... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMalcolm Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 I thought they are made of beeswax... Tallow is much cheaper and more practical. I'd like to buy tallow ones even now, for cases of electricity fails, but these are out of sale already. I think we should ask if it was mentioned in ASoS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bori Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 are we sure it's meant for gods? And do we know if it's one candle (as the hint sais) or more (as q17)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ziz0z Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 16.5. Something meant for gods/spirits/what-have-you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMalcolm Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 are we sure it's meant for gods? And do we know if it's one candle (as the hint sais) or more (as q17)? 16.5 is clear enough. And we probably shouldn't care if it was one candle or several. I suppose someone lit some candle(s) gratefully for some merit Gods do to him-her, but the merit turned to be of no use. Wild idea: it might be Stannis thanking God for death of three kings, which doesn't help him at all in long run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ziz0z Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 I don't recall that happening though. I get the impression that R'hllor prefers bigger fires, too. There are candles offered to the Seven, and there are also candles in the HoBaW. Any other gods like candles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bori Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 I didn't see it. Thanks!I don't know how they relate to being grateful, but some specific candles I remember:Jaime knocks over some candles lit for Joffrey when "meeting" with Cersei in the sept. They had fortunately gone out before burning down the sept (but I think they were seen on page)They use special candles in the HoBaW which conjure visions (Arya finds two of such, they were not seen on page since she is blind)Daenerys lits a hunderd candles for HazzeaOr could be any other normal offering. Cat and Sansa usually lits candels for Robb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evermind Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 I'll give some hint after the next answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrsManderly Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 hmmm... didn't Cersei light some candles in faux piety right before the High Septon nabbed her? not a formal question - just ponderin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ziz0z Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Towards the end of ASOS Sansa II, Sansa considers lighting candles at the sept for Margaery and Loras. Those would fit, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bori Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 or maybe this from Cersei: "One day she must light a candle to the Stranger for carrying Renly off and leaving Stannis." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMalcolm Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Evermind, is the book where it mentioned ASoS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ziz0z Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 I like that one. Who knows how many candles I've forgotten about though... I'll second the idea that we ask about the book it's in. Edit: Lol, I spend too long worrying about my posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evermind Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 1. Not character/s2. Not event/place3. Among the established categories4. Object5. Man made6. Not item of clothing7. Not made of metal8. Not made of wood, paper or fabric9. Not made from glass or gems10. Not seen on page11. Not made from stone or clayHint: such objects were seen on page probably in every book, but that particular one we're talking about wasn't seen on page, only mentioned12. Not made of leather13. Not made from bone14. Not a food or drink for people15. Mentioned in one book only, but not in AGOT/ACOKLet me know if you want another hint (though I kinda gave you one with 14)16. Not meant as a feed for animals. Not for horses or mules or kittensWell, in fact it depends on the material it's made of. In certain cases it can be eaten by certain animals, but it definitely isn't meant to be.16.5. Something meant for gods/spirits/what-have-you17. Candles (in ASOIAF universe they probably are made from wax, but I seem to recall back in the days candles were made of animal fats (grease? salo? Don't know the right word, Malc help me), and there were instances when mice ate them)Now don't forget to consider the first hint, you have only three questions left! 18. Mentioned not in ASOS Hint: A/the candle/s (I'm not clarifying this one, to me it seems I was quite clear about it) was/were lit, which means it's not something like "one day she must lit a candle", it's not considering litting candles or that sort of stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMalcolm Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Affc: ser Arys set a candle to Warrior when sent to Dorne.Sercei set seven candles in memory of previous High Septon.Arienne set a candlle to Maiden when Hoster wanted to merry her with her son. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bori Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 I found a possible candidate! In AFFC "When Tyrion had chosen him (Ser Arys) to go with Myrcella to Dorne, he lit a candle to the Warrior in thanks." What do you think? Ah, ninja'd :ninja: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a free shadow Posted May 21, 2014 Author Share Posted May 21, 2014 Arys. Guess it! :ninja: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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