angelodebo Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 http://static2.hypable.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/WOIAF7.jpg I have not seen any comments regarding the family tree that was released...Any thoughts? What surprised me the most..Seems like a lot of marriages to houses in the Vale.(Cobray, and two Royces) Also, a lot of Starks marrying Starks..Somewhat like the Targs I found the discussion..http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/topic/107651-world-of-ice-and-fire-extract-to-be-available/?hl=v Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravenkingsamurai Posted May 20, 2014 Share Posted May 20, 2014 There have been loads of discussion: heres one of my threads:http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/topic/110076-in-light-of-the-new-stark-family-tree-who-are-the-she-wolves-of-winterfell/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Blizzardborn Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 I find it interesting not only that Ned is listed as Jon's father, but that his mother is "unknown." If R+L=J is true, that's false information. And if it's not true, then Wylla is most definitely NOT Jon's mother (as I think we all knew anyway). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bael's Bastard Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 All of Westeros believes Ned to be Jon's father, and his mother is unknown. Why would it show anything different? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arataniello Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 All of Westeros believes Ned to be Jon's father, and his mother is unknown. Why would it show anything different? Correct. If the tree is viewed as being prepared "within" Westeros, by Westerosi and based on their available information, this part of the Stark tree is perfectly accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Blizzardborn Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 Correct. If the tree is viewed as being prepared "within" Westeros, by Westerosi and based on their available information, this part of the Stark tree is perfectly accurate. Oh yes, I'd forgotten that this was done by the maesters. That explains it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Varys Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 Well, since there is apparently no Baratheon family tree in the book, it's dubious (even unlikely) if the fiction that the family trees are part of Maester Yandel's book can be upheld. A maester who is trying to win Robert Baratheon's favor should not skip the family tree of House Baratheon in favor of the Targaryen ancestry (Robert would not be all that interested in that one) or even the Lannister family tree (not related to the royal dynasty). The Stark family tree makes some sense, though, since Robert was very close to Ned/Lyanna. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhaenys_Targaryen Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 It's always possible that the Baratheon tree is integrated into the Targaryen tree, since for the maesters it was important that Robert had an actual blood claim to the throne, not only a claim by conquest. In that case, Robert's Baratheon tree, can be shows from Rhaelle onwards, with 4 generations of Baratheons in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs.Grumpy Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 I'm sure Robert knew his own ancestors, no need for family tree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bael's Bastard Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 I am pretty sure it has been stated the trees are for fans, not Robert. It's never enough for some people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Varys Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 They certainly are for fans, the whole book is. The question is, are the family trees supposed to be an appendix to Maester Yandel's work, or are they merely an appendix to the book? I'd be a much better conception, in my opinion, if the book would incorporate the invented family trees in the in-universe section of the book. And I'm pretty sure Robert did not really know (or care) all that much about his ancestry. He would have known about Orys, and other important Lords/heroes of House Baratheon, and possibly his grandparents and great-grandparents, but he would most certainly not have memorized his full family tree in detail. He's just not the kind of guy who would do something like that. But even if he was, that would still not explain why Maester 'The Glorious Reign' Yandel would not try to impress King Robert by adding a full family tree of House Baratheon to his book. It was dedicated to/explicitly made for the king, after all. And Yandel would also be very wise to not over-stress the fact that Robert was descended from a Targaryen grandmother. He hated them, remember, and that was such a well-known fact that Yandel would really be stupid if he did not realize it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wolves Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 He probably knew Robert wouldn't open the book so he put the Targaryens in there anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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