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When talking about Bob, everyone points naming Jon as his hand was his smarter choice and that everything good he got in his kingdom came from this men.

Jon Arryn married him with Cersei Lannister. Jon avoided Daenerys to be killed, now a big threat to westeros and his dinasty.

Arryn big succes in Dorne was reviled to be a bunch of crap, with Doran signing treatirs with Dragons.

He left scums as Varys or Slynt to live in KL. And didnt take any good men of the vale with him as Royce. The KG is as shitty as it could be, and unlist Moore came from his lands so probably is a favour to him....think of a Robar Royce insted, for example.

Cherry of the cake. He brought and protected LF. The man that destroyed Robert. And he left a stupid unfit son, and a crappy wife ruling the vale insted of naming proper rulers and officials.

What the hell did this men did right after the rebelion????

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I disagree with this. In the context of the story Jon Arryn was a great man in my opinion and a good hand. The marriage to Cersei provided Robert's rule with a strong backing in the Lannisters to help uphold their own depleted forces after the war and prevent another immediate uprising from the Tyrells and Martells to put Viserys on the throne. To that end what he did with Dorne was attempting to make the most of a bad situation, they were never going to be happy about what happened and he couldn't risk alienating Tywin. Mandon Moore was a good member of the Kings Guard as well, a grim man but he lived for duty and was a skilled warrior. He died doing his king's command remember. Keeping Varys and LF might have been short sighted but they also fooled everybody else and appeared to be very useful. The reason he hadn't other regents ready was probably because he didn't realize he was going to be murdered before his son came of age, who he had planned to foster to improve his capabilities. He was in good health remember and as far we know nobody else had tried for such a long time, why would they now?



He kept the peace for over a decade with a new dynasty on the throne and an unstable king. He did a good job in a position that is incredibly difficult, far more so than most people seem to realize.



Edit: The other thread seems to have taken off more so I re-posted this reply there.


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When talking about Bob, everyone points naming Jon as his hand was his smarter choice and that everything good he got in his kingdom came from this men.

Jon Arryn married him with Cersei Lannister. Jon avoided Daenerys to be killed, now a big threat to westeros and his dinasty.

Arryn big succes in Dorne was reviled to be a bunch of crap, with Doran signing treatirs with Dragons.

He left scums as Varys or Slynt to live in KL. And didnt take any good men of the vale with him as Royce. The KG is as shitty as it could be, and unlist Moore came from his lands so probably is a favour to him....think of a Robar Royce insted, for example.

Cherry of the cake. He brought and protected LF. The man that destroyed Robert. And he left a stupid unfit son, and a crappy wife ruling the vale insted of naming proper rulers and officials.

What the hell did this men did right after the rebelion????

He was planning on having his son fostered and the Vale actually benefitted from Lysa's rule as they're now probably the 2nd most powerful Kingdom in Westeros.

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