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So many questions. Why sacrifice two Giants to try to get through the gate instead of supporting them with a couple of hundred wildlings? Why does the second giant charge in by himself? Where are the other wildlings? I understand this was a "probe" by Mance but even so... A few more men and the the gate would have been taken and the Night's Watch slaughtered.

Where are all the other men of the NW? Are they really down to 100 dudes in this show? Who is manning the other castles? Are there even other Castles? Are there no other gates through the wall in the show version? Also, how do you get smashed face first into an anvil, gush blood, and then walk away with everything intact? How does a little kid with a shitty bow kill a wilding with armor on? What happens to Thorne? He gets sliced a bit, two guys drag him off and he isn't seen or heard from again. Why are the wildlings attacking Castle Black so uncoordinated? What was the fucking plan there??

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Did anyone else get the sense that when Aemon Targaryen was talking about the girl that he loved that it was the Queen of Thornes?

How would you get that feeling? it could have been jenny from the block...it's not like he went into any detail.

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So many questions. Why sacrifice two Giants to try to get through the gate instead of supporting them with a couple of hundred wildlings? Why does the second giant charge in by himself? Where are the other wildlings? I understand this was a "probe" by Mance but even so... A few more men and the the gate would have been taken and the Night's Watch slaughtered.

Where are all the other men of the NW? Are they really down to 100 dudes in this show? Who is manning the other castles? Are there even other Castles? Are there no other gates through the wall in the show version? Also, how do you get smashed face first into an anvil, gush blood, and then walk away with everything intact? How does a little kid with a shitty bow kill a wilding with armor on? What happens to Thorne? He gets sliced a bit, two guys drag him off and he isn't seen or heard from again. Why are the wildlings attacking Castle Black so uncoordinated? What was the fucking plan there??

The other giant was visibly pissed when his buddy got shot...that's why he stormed the gate.

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I don't know why, but the deaths of the two giants bothered me much more that it should have D:

Damn, I really feel sad about their deaths....

It's ok, bud. Wun Weg Wun Dar Wun, baby.

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Are we supposed to care about prologue chars, especially knowing that hmm...all of them die? Please don't try to tell me they are one and the same.

That wasn't my point and I honestly don't get how you arrived at that conclusion. My point is the prologue established the concept for a reason. Using it later for Jon's survival is a logical reason for the existence of the events in the prologue. It's foreshadowing. Whether it's foreshadowing something in Jon's arc I don't know. But it's a reasonable conclusion.

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How would you get that feeling? it could have been jenny from the block...it's not like he went into any detail.

I did like how he said "She's more real to me than you are"...that was really poignant.

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Just talked to some unsullied co-workers. They want to know if the Sam/Gilly stuff has a point because it's boring and seems like a waste of time. I told them I'm under the assumption that indestructo baby will be the last man standing.


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Honestly having it look like a grim situation then Stannis coming in to save the day at the end of the episode is good enough for me. The guy gets shit on for screen time.


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I am by no means a stanfanboy, but wtf. Pretty sure the episode would have been much better if they cut most of the beginning (sex talk, really?) and finished with Mance/Stannis. I was really looking forward to that. I yelled at the credits :bs:



The finale is gonna be a clusterfucking orgy.


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So many questions. Why sacrifice two Giants to try to get through the gate instead of supporting them with a couple of hundred wildlings? Why does the second giant charge in by himself? Where are the other wildlings? I understand this was a "probe" by Mance but even so... A few more men and the the gate would have been taken and the Night's Watch slaughtered.

Where are all the other men of the NW? Are they really down to 100 dudes in this show? Who is manning the other castles? Are there even other Castles? Are there no other gates through the wall in the show version? Also, how do you get smashed face first into an anvil, gush blood, and then walk away with everything intact? How does a little kid with a shitty bow kill a wilding with armor on? What happens to Thorne? He gets sliced a bit, two guys drag him off and he isn't seen or heard from again. Why are the wildlings attacking Castle Black so uncoordinated? What was the fucking plan there??

i thought that was the point...wildlings are uncoordinated...

think mance's aim wasnt to take the castle right away, remember that Jon successfully lied and mentioned they have over a 1000 men...thats y he sent the raiding part of Tormund and Thenn's to distract them, bleed the NW...with that logic it would make sense why he sent so few for a frontal assault on the gate, again to distract them, test their defenses, use up their arrows/barrels, bleed them a bit if possible...

about why Mance decided to attack Castle Black and not one of the other unmanned castles...that is something i wondered while reading the books as well :dunno:

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I couldn't care less if Stanners was in this episode, but upon rewatch what bothered me is how cliche this episode was. By no means is it overly cliche compared to other TV shows, but as far as Game of Thrones goes this was the most over the top ep yet. You really get the feeling that GRRM was constantly rolling his eyes watching this.



Having said that, yay giants. Yay Ghost.


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i thought that was the point...wildlings are uncoordinated...

think mance's aim wasnt to take the castle right away, remember that Jon successfully lied and mentioned they have over a 1000 men...thats y he sent the raiding part of Tormund and Thenn's to distract them, bleed the NW...with that logic it would make sense why he sent so few for a frontal assault on the gate, again to distract them, test their defenses, use up their arrows/barrels, bleed them a bit if possible...

about why Mance decided to attack Castle Black and not one of the other unmanned castles...that is something i wondered while reading the books as well :dunno:

They freeze shut the tunnel when they abandon a castle, like Jon wanted to do at Castle Black.

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i agree, i don't understand all the hatred out there... there was no way stannis could have made it into this episode, unless you just wanted to see him riding... jon has to meet with mance first... some of the reactions i've seen seem a tad on the childish side

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Looks like Val will not be cast and Tormund will replace her.

I was never rooting for a Val and Jon romance until now.

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Sooo .. is Tormund going to replace Rattleshirt in the Mance switcheroo plot?

Will that plot even exist?

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I think the episode deserves more than 6, tbh. 4 and 3 is kinda harsh, and yes, I'm pissed. but I'm calm down now...





Remember when the show runner said that there is a scene in episode 10 that is the most expensive effects shot they've ever done? And people were wondering what it could possibly be? Now we know, it's the Stannis charge.





I hope.


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Assuming they keep the plot it would make more sense in the confines of the show to give that role to Tormund (as much as I hate to say it... :frown5: )

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I'm glad they didn't try to jam Stannis in there, he had no place in this episode.



I love what they did with Thorne. On one hand I want him to live and continue to do his thing, but on the other, even though he is a dick that most people probably don't like, it would be sort of difficult to believe anyone would be chosen above him for LC if he were alive and able.


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