Snowisnobastard Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Grenn and pyp? They're both still alive post adwd. Maybe d&d know that they get offed anyway and decided to just throw it in for more emotional impact Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frumpus Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 They had to kill them because they made the mistake of not including other recognizable Wall characters. IMO this is why they should have made Locke switch allegiance to Jon. He could have easily died here instead of Grenn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck88 Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 They had to kill them because they made the mistake of not including other recognizable Wall characters. IMO this is why they should have made Locke switch allegiance to Jon. He could have easily died here instead of Grenn. Yeah but nobody would give a shit if Locke died. I think Grenn was pretty much a marked man since the first previews came out, possibly before. He went out in a great way. Pyp on the other hand didn't have to go at all. That was my only nit-pick with the episode besides the obvious one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkash Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 I really think the show should cast one new brother of the Night's Watch who'll be the voice, face and blade of Jon's opposition next season and to make up to all those deaths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HouseHarrison Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Because D&D have noticed Grenn and Pyp don't really do anything important as of ADWD and needed people to kill off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan Man Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 I didn't mind their deaths; they were emotional and added to the tragic scale of the battle. Plus, they have little to no parts in future storylines. I only wish that their characters were built up a bit. My SO thought that Pyp's death was much sadder than Ygritte's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilúvatar Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 I'm not too fussed. I never cared much for them as characters, and there was always a high possibility that D&D would decide to kill off non-important characters earlier than in the books. I'm just glad it wasn't Alliser Thorne, because I think he still has a fairly important role to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
go joff go Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 I'm not too fussed. I never cared much for them as characters, and there was always a high possibility that D&D would decide to kill off non-important characters earlier than in the books. I'm just glad it wasn't Alliser Thorne, because I think he still has a fairly important role to play.me too I never understood how people thought the election would work without Thorne. Also shocked how many people seemed to think Thorne died, when he was telling his men to fight a large stannis. Seemed clearly alive to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conchobar Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Yeah but nobody would give a shit if Locke died. I think Grenn was pretty much a marked man since the first previews came out, possibly before. He went out in a great way. Pyp on the other hand didn't have to go at all. That was my only nit-pick with the episode besides the obvious one. I disagree, it was a battle, people die, he put his head up, end of story. I liked it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YourMomsBox Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 I think in particular Grenn's death was a very heroic end and there's really nothing further down the line that could do the character anymore justice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostinwesteros Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Grenn and Pyp! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twenty of House Goodmen Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 I actually liked that they died. Not that I dislike them. Still wish Donal was fighting the giant though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skagosi High Chef Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Donal Noye should have been on the show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkfaithful85 Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 I really was praying that they didn't kill tormund...I knew grenn was dead as son as jon said hold the tunnel no matter what. I'm assuming ions relationship with Ed will improve along with more face time with Sam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HODOR! HODOR!! Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 I think one of the reasons was so Jon doesn't really have anyone he can trust next season. It forces him into that situation, rather than having him send them away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roxWolfox Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 During Pyp's death scene I actually grabbed my husband's hand 'cause I needed his support in case I had to endure Grenn's death scene. I was spared the trauma, but still ... Still very, very sad. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tall Tyrion Lannister! Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 I really was praying that they didn't kill tormund...I knew grenn was dead as son as jon said hold the tunnel no matter what. I'm assuming ions relationship with Ed will improve along with more face time with Sam. I was sure one of Thorne or Tormund was going to die during their fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoamingRonin Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Felt like reading the Red Wedding all over again. This can't be happening. This can't be happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good Guy Garlan Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Mark Stanley would have been magnificent as Edmure Tully. There, I said it Dude was awesome and will be sorely missed. And Pyp as well And Tormund. He was mercilessly assassinated in this episode too ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkash Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Dolorous Edd will definitly have a more expanded role next year. I'm really glad of this and loved him this episode. But I am still so sad for Pyp. Grenn's death is heroic as hell ! Tormund will calm down later I hope and be more open to talks with Jon. He has too considering all there is to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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