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Part I

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"I dreamt a wolf howling in the rain, but no one heard his grief," the dwarf woman was saying. "I dreamt such a clangor I thought my head might burst, drums and horns and pipes and screams, but the saddest sound was the little bells. I dreamt of a maid at a feast with purple serpents in her hair, venom dripping from their fangs. And later I dreamt that maid again, slaying a savage giant in a castle built of snow." She turned her head sharply and smiled through the gloom, right at Arya. "You cannot hide from me, child. Come closer, now."

Cold fingers walked down Arya's neck. Fear cuts deeper than swords, she reminded herself. She stood and approached the fire warily, light on the balls of her feet, poised to flee.

The dwarf woman studied her with dim red eyes. "I see you," she whispered. "I see you, wolf child. Blood child. I thought it was the lord who smelled of death . . . " She began to sob, her little body shaking. "You are cruel to come to my hill, cruel. I gorged on grief at Summerhall, I need none of yours. Begone from here, dark heart. Begone!"

Arya VIII, Storm

We know prophecies don't always turn out quite the way we, and the characters, expect. So we should expect a twist here. There is no doubt that the maid with purple serpents in her hair is Sansa and that vision alludes to Sansa's role in the assassination of Joffrey. And since the woods witch saw the same maid slaying the savage giant it's usually taken as a given that Sansa will do the slaying. While some suggest the giant is Gregor, and some suggest it's Tyrion and a few even have some off beat notions, most seem to agree that the giant is Petyr and Sansa will whack him in Winterfell or maybe the Eyrie. And we want that to happen because Sansa is so sweet and Petyr is so dastardly. It would all be so neat.

But whom did the woods witch see? Was it really Sansa or could it have been someone who looked like Sansa? Perhaps her sister? Well, Arya doesn't look like her, does she? But Arya is learning how to look like anyone she wants to.

And we know the George just loves sets of three. In the first vision we get from the woods witch, we learn about Stannis killing Renly, Euron killing Balon, and Catelyn getting whacked. Arya IV, Storm. In the second set above we get Rob at the "red wedding," Sansa at the purple wedding, and... Sansa again? Really? Wouldn't the sets of prophecies from the ghost of High Heart be more elegant if the maid again was someone other than Sansa, perhaps Arya, maybe even at a wedding? 

And notice that as soon as the woods witch tells us that the maid again will slay the savage giant in the castle of snow she turns her head sharply and smiles through the gloom, right at Arya.

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Part II

So who's the savage giant? Since most readers seem to believe it's Petyr for reasons that have been discussed ad nauseum relating him to a giant, I'm not going to rehash those arguments. But I will note some possible foreshadowing of Arya killing Petyr...

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He has us. Tyrion did not trust Petyr Baelish, nor did he want the man out of his sight, yet what other choice was left him? It must be Littlefinger or Tyrion himself, and he knew full well that if he left Kings Landing for any length of time, all that he had managed to accomplish would be undone. There is fighting between here and Bitterbridge, he said cautiously. And you can be past certain that Lord Stannis will be dispatching his own shepherds to gather in his brothers wayward lambs.

"I've never been frightened of shepherds. It's the sheep who trouble me. Still, I suppose an escort might be in order."

Tyrion VIII, Clash

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She had thought she had known what it meant to be afraid, but she learned better in that storehouse beside the Gods Eye. Eight days she had lingered there before the Mountain gave the command to march, and every day she had seen someone die.

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The direwolf was the sigil of the Starks, but Arya felt more a lamb, surrounded by a herd of other sheep. She hated the villagers for their sheepishness, almost as much as she hated herself.

Arya VI, Clash

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Only the kindly man knew the Common Tongue. "Who are you?" he would ask her every day.

"No one," she would answer, she who had been Arya of House Stark, Arya Underfoot, Arya Horseface. She had been Arry and Weasel too, and Squab and Salty, Nan the cupbearer, a grey mouse, a sheep, the ghost of Harrenhal . . . but not for true, not in her heart of hearts. In there she was Arya of Winterfell, the daughter of Lord Eddard Stark and Lady Catelyn, who had once had brothers named Robb and Bran and Rickon, a sister named Sansa, a direwolf called Nymeria, a half brother named Jon Snow. In there she was someone . . . but that was not the answer that he wanted.

Arya II, Feast

So around the time Petyr was fearing the sheep, Arya was... wait for it... a sheep!

A little before that Petyr appeared to be a rabbit...

http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/topic/88292-littlefinger-and-potted-hare/

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Arya was a skilled climber and a fast picker, and she liked to go off by herself. One day she came across a rabbit, purely by happenstance. It was brown and fat, with long ears and a twitchy nose. Rabbits ran faster than cats, but they couldn't climb trees half so well. She whacked it with her stick and grabbed it by its ears, and Yoren stewed it with some mushrooms and wild onions. Arya was given a whole leg, since it was her rabbit. She shared it with Gendry. The rest of them each got a spoonful, even the three in manacles. Jaqen H'ghar thanked her politely for the treat, and Biter licked the grease off his dirty fingers with a blissful look, but Rorge, the noseless one, only laughed and said, "There's a hunter now. Lumpyface Lumpyhead Rabbitkiller."

Arya III, Clash

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On 6/11/2014 at 0:16 AM, Mithras said:

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“My father was the oarmaster on Nymeria. A bravo killed him for saying that my mother was more beautiful than the Nightingale. Not one of those camel cunts you met, a real bravo. Someday I’ll slit his throat.”

You might want to use this quote as well, though I still interpret it as the Cat of the Mountains will slay LF, not Cat of the Canals.

 

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An interesting idea. Arya's arc would need to go in a very different direction, but I'd enjoy that. I don't see it as likely, but still an interesting idea.

Eta: I guess you weren't done yet. My bad.

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Part III

I also suspect that Petyr may treat with Daenerys but when it's time to dance, he will side with Aegon, and Daenerys, probably influenced by Tyrion, is likely to push him in that direction...

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Thank you, but no. Littlefinger flashed his mocking smile. Drink with the dwarf, its said, and you wake up walking the Wall. Black brings out my unhealthy pallor.

Tyrion IV, Clash

The next three quotes foreshadow Petyr taking Sansa to the Vale...

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The Arryns are descended from the Kings of Mountain and Vale, one of the oldest and purest lines of Andal nobility. Their sigil is the moon-and-falcon, white upon a sky blue field.

Appendix, Game

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Petyr had been a small boy, and he had grown into a small man, an inch or two shorter than Catelyn, slender and quick, with the sharp features she remembered and the same laughing grey-green eyes. He had a little pointed chin beard now, and threads of silver in his dark hair, though he was still shy of thirty. They went well with the silver mockingbird that fastened his cloak. Even as a child, he had always loved his silver.

Catelyn IV, Game

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His eldest daughter stepped forward hesitantly. She was dressed in blue velvets trimmed with white, a silver chain around her neck.

Eddard III, Game

Now compare that bit with this bit...

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"A dream delayed, no more." Dany's tight silver collar was chafing against her throat. She unfastened it and flung it aside.

Daenerys III, Clash, after being rejected by the Pureborn

So Petyr will be rejected by, or reject, Daenerys and throw in with Aegon...

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All the colors that had been missing from Vaes Tolorro had found their way to Qarth; buildings crowded about her fantastical as a fever dream in shades of rose, violet, and umber. She passed under a bronze arch fashioned in the likeness of two snakes mating, their scales delicate flakes of jade, obsidian, and lapis lazuli. Slim towers stood taller than any Dany had ever seen, and elaborate fountains filled every square, wrought in the shapes of griffins and dragons and manticores.

Daenerys II, Clash

Notice that she observes fountains wrought in the shapes of griffins and dragons and manticores. The griffin and dragon allusions are easy, of course, Jon Connington and Aegon. But the manticore allusion is much more elusive. In case you dont know, the manticore is a chimera, a fantastical beast comprised of the body parts of more than one animal or other mythical beast. The manticore most commonly consisted of a human head, a lions body, a bats wings, and a scorpions tail, but there were other variations. In ASOIAF, the manticore was much smaller, with a malign, black face and an arched, venomous tail, with the ability to fold itself into a scarab. In the real world, the manticore and chimeras were depicted in the art of the Romanesque and Renaissance periods to symbolize fraud. So, we have Jon Connington, Aegon, and fraud.

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Part IV

What the hell does Part III have to do with the OP? This...

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Then Shagwell pounced on her, dragging her out across the yard. "My lord, my lord," he sang, tugging at her wrist, "here's the weasel who made the soup!"

"Let go," Arya said, wriggling out of his grasp.

The lord regarded her. Only his eyes moved; they were very pale, the color of ice. "How old are you, child?"

She had to think for a moment to remember. "Ten."

"Ten, my lord," he reminded her. "Are you fond of animals?"

"Some kinds. My lord."

A thin smile twitched across his lips. "But not lions, it would seem. Nor manticores."

Arya IX, Clash

That suggests to me that Arya is going to be aligned against Aegon, whom I expect will be supported by Petyr.

And I just saw this little bit from when Nymeria hunted down Arya's pursuit out of Harrenhal...

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Filled with rage, she leapt onto his back, knocking him head-first from his saddle. Her jaws locked on his arm as they fell, her teeth sinking through the leather and wool and soft flesh. When they landed she gave a savage jerk with her head and ripped the limb loose from his shoulder. Exulting, she shook it back and forth in her mouth, scattering the warm red droplets amidst the cold black rain.

Arya I, Storm

"Black" rain? I guess you want your rain to be black when you need a black background for your red droplets to suggest the Targaryen, as opposed to Blackfyre, colors. 

So, where's the castle of snow? I really don't know. But I have a feeling the deed might be done at a wedding reception. The George likes his threes.

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On 6/11/2014 at 0:16 AM, Paper Waver said:

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My father was the oarmaster on Nymeria. A bravo killed him for saying that my mother was more beautiful than the Nightingale. Not one of those camel cunts you met, a real bravo. Someday I'll slit his throat.

 

And that's the why. I think we're in store with a terrific scene where Arya learns that Petyr was responsible for bringing her house down and confronts Sansa, who I expect by then will be all in with Petyr.

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After finishing, I'm still going with it being a stretch. I like the idea though. +1 for something new.

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I don't agree with it at all but at least it's different.



ETA: Isn't the inventory of faces you can take limited to dead people? So if Arya is impersonating Sansa by taking on her appearance, that means Sansa will be dead. Like Jaqen killed Pate and then took his face, and all the faces of dead people that Arya sees in the House of Black and White. Are you willing to go that far with this theory?



ETA2: I think the "twist" with this prophecy has already occurred, with people thinking that Sansa ripping the head off the doll fulfilled the prophecy when, I'd strongly argue, it didn't. Which sets up a surprise later on when Sansa actually fulfills it.


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I don't agree with it at all but at least it's different.

ETA: Isn't the inventory of faces you can take limited to dead people? So if Arya is impersonating Sansa by taking on her appearance, that means Sansa will be dead. Like Jaqen killed Pate and then took his face, and all the faces of dead people that Arya sees in the House of Black and White. Are you willing to go that far with this theory?

Maybe she'll use a glamor instead? She still needs to learn that, though.

I'm not convinced. And, as it often happens in this board, I think a lot of that "foreshadowing" it's simple coincidence. With books this big, we can't pretend every single word, every single choice of clothing and every single bit of anything has to mean something. At some point it's probably "Uh, ok, which colors are Sansa wearing? Well, let's make it blue and carry on"

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I don't agree with it at all but at least it's different.

ETA: Isn't the inventory of faces you can take limited to dead people? So if Arya is impersonating Sansa by taking on her appearance, that means Sansa will be dead. Like Jaqen killed Pate and then took his face, and all the faces of dead people that Arya sees in the House of Black and White. Are you willing to go that far with this theory?

ETA2: I think the "twist" with this prophecy has already occurred, with people thinking that Sansa ripping the head off the doll fulfilled the prophecy when, I'd strongly argue, it didn't. Which sets up a surprise later on when Sansa actually fulfills it.

The Faceless Men use all sorts of tricks. Assuming they are as slick as Melisandre Arya could pose as Sansa while Sansa is alive, just as Melisandre had Rattleshirt pose as a living Mance. (I would be willing to go that far with this theory cause I think Sansa is not going to be a fan favorite much longer, but I don't see any hints in the text that Arya's going to whack her.)

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The Faceless Men use all sorts of tricks. Assuming they are as slick as Melisandre Arya could pose as Sansa while Sansa is alive, just as Melisandre had Rattleshirt pose as a living Mance. (I would be willing to go that far with this theory cause I think Sansa is not going to be a fan favorite much longer, but I don't see any hints in the text that Arya's going to whack her.)

But that's not how we see them doing it up to this point. At this point, all we've seen are them taking dead people's faces. You mention Melisandre, but her glamors don't really resemble how we've seen the FM operate with their faces, so I'm not sure why she's relevant to the argument.

Based on what we've actually seen the Faceless Men actually do, for Arya to actually use Sansa's face, Sansa would have to be dead. And I don't see that happening. And LOL at Sansa being a "fan favorite." I love her, yes, and she has her fans, but a huge number of people even on here give her a huge amount of (undeserved) scorn.

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“My father was the oarmaster on Nymeria. A bravo killed him for saying that my mother was more beautiful than the Nightingale. Not one of those camel cunts you met, a real bravo. Someday I’ll slit his throat.”



You might want to use this quote as well, though I still interpret it as the Cat of the Mountains will slay LF, not Cat of the Canals.


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About LF siding with Varys' Aegon: Petyr may be forced to push his way into Aegon's camp if desperate for play, but if he has other options he'll take them first rather than attaching himself to Varys' team directly, which is like admitting Varys was winning and Pete had to play catch-up. Isn't the smart money on Dorne failing hard and pulling down Aegon with them by association? Petyr won't be in a rush to join that cursed faction unless it's the only move (with the alternative being to die from an onslaught of walkers and/or dragons).



I want Arya to be everywhere and kill everyone like Kratos killed all the gods and was the last one standing in that mural in GOW2. Arya's Braavos faction may not want to slay Littlefinger, though. His region may be added next to Stan's realm rebuilding project. It'll be interesting to see how things go if Stan survives long enough to have that meeting with LF and discuss what shape the future of the riverlands should take.



Uh, how about this for a savage-giant-slaying maid: one of the Sansa hunters finds her for the queen and takes her back to KL; there, the court's Sand Snake manages to rip Robert Strong's helmet off to reveal he's not Gregor, and Strong is going stark raving nuts in response, killing the rich until Sansa stops him cold by saying "Dad! Father! STop!" (it's a NedHead Robert Strong). The monster stands down and ends his killing spree, "wakes" to his old identity as a Stark, recognizes his daughter, and because of this change in his nature the mere mortals at court are able to take mad queen Cersei into custody. (Cementing Sansa as the more beautiful queen Cersei has always feared).


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My father was the oarmaster on Nymeria. A bravo killed him for saying that my mother was more beautiful than the Nightingale. Not one of those camel cunts you met, a real bravo. Someday Ill slit his throat.

You might want to use this quote as well, though I still interpret it as the Cat of the Mountains will slay LF, not Cat of the Canals.

And that's the why. I think we're in store with a terrific scene where Arya learns that Petyr was responsible for bringing her house down and conft onts Sansa, who I expect by then will be all in with Petyr.

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That's good. If both sisters come to KL with different factions there'd be alotta fools present for Arya to kill and check off of her list. If the meeting takes place in the Vale, Arya only gets to kill Pete. Which may not be as fulfilling.


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About LF siding with Varys' Aegon: Petyr may be forced to push his way into Aegon's camp if desperate for play, but if he has other options he'll take them first rather than attaching himself to Varys' team directly, which is like admitting Varys was winning and Pete had to play catch-up. Isn't the smart money on Dorne failing hard and pulling down Aegon with them by association? Petyr won't be in a rush to join that cursed faction unless it's the only move (with the alternative being to die from an onslaught of walkers and/or dragons).

I want Arya to be everywhere and kill everyone like Kratos killed all the gods and was the last one standing in that mural in GOW2. Arya's Braavos faction may not want to slay Littlefinger, though. His region may be added next to Stan's realm rebuilding project. It'll be interesting to see how things go if Stan survives long enough to have that meeting with LF and discuss what shape the future of the riverlands should take.

Uh, how about this for a savage-giant-slaying maid: one of the Sansa hunters finds her for the queen and takes her back to KL; there, the court's Sand Snake manages to rip Robert Strong's helmet off to reveal he's not Gregor, and Strong is going stark raving nuts in response, killing the rich until Sansa stops him cold by saying "Dad! Father! STop!" (it's a NedHead Robert Strong). The monster stands down and ends his killing spree, "wakes" to his old identity as a Stark, recognizes his daughter, and because of this change in his nature the mere mortals at court are able to take mad queen Cersei into custody. (Cementing Sansa as the more beautiful queen Cersei has always feared).

That's almost fan service.

So to make it full fan service we need NedHead Robert Strong going berserk on the remaining Lannisters, Tyrells and anyone who wronged the Starks! :D :D :D :D

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Interesting theory, I hesitate to adopt it however, because I do have some issues with your conclusions:

Start with Arya as a sheep and a rabbit killer.

The sheep symbolism is rampant throughout the series: Bran lets go of Jamie's arm, "sheepishly" right before Jamie pushes him off the window (perhaps a sign that Bran is a sacrifice?); Tyrion proclaims himself innocent as a lamb; The Lhazareen are called the Lamb men and are often compared to sheep; MMD has Drogo wear a lambskin over his festering wound; the Stokeworths sigil is the lamb Lollys is of course raped by half of flea bottom, while her sister suffers an even more grisly fate when Cersei hands her over to Qyburn for his experiments. The Weirwood tree in White Tree had a mouth large enough to swallow a "sheep" (even though it was human bones inside the mouth...); Craster wears a sheepskin jerkin; Craster gives the Others sheep when he runs out of boys; Arya considers the villagers captured by the Mountain as sheep and then realizes that she too is a sheep; Theon considers killing Benfred Tallhart and his "Wild Hares" as slaughtering sheep; Jarmen Buckwell warns that there are goats among the wildling sheep; Mance gives the Wildlings sheepskin cloaks ect. ect. ect. (this is just some of the imagery I found in the first two books).

I think Arya goes through multiple transformations throughout the story, the sheep (or victim or sacrifice) merely being one of them. I think she has evolved well past that. Perhaps the imagery you've picked up on merely foreshadows that Petyr needs to beware someone he has set up to be sacrificed.

Likewise the rabbit: The rabbit is a trickier critter to figure out in Martin's stories. I think that Arya being identified as a rabbit killer is significant. I also agree with you that Petyr has been subtly linked to rabbit or hare imagery. However we also have the aforementioned Benfred and his Wild Hares, boys who are trying to emulate Robb Stark and his army; Dany becomes queen of the rabbits and puts on her floppy ears after she takes over the throne of Mereen. A Yunkai envoy conveying his threats to "King" Hizdhar is called a rabbit; Gilly is a keeper of rabbits; Ghosts breaks into her rabbit pen and eats several of them; Jon takes one of Ghost's ill gotten rabbits and eats it feeling extremely guilty when he sees Gilly later; Maron Volmark is described as looking like the lord of rabbits after Euron names him Lord of Greenshield. One of the Walder Freys at Winterfell also flushes three rabbits out of the underbrush and manages to kill one with an arrow.

I'm tempted to equate the rabbit with a trickster character and Baelish certainly qualifies, but it doesn't seems to fully envelop all of the rabbit imagery that Martin uses. Regardless this is the part of your theory that I'm most intrigued by.

The imagery of Dany throwing off her silver choker and equating it with a future interaction with Petyr is the weakest part of your theory (well that and the constant need to equate black with Blackfyre. ETA: not saying that you constantly equate black with Blackfyre, I'm just referring to the Board's need to link almost everything with the Blackfyre angle). I think silver may equate with justice in this series. Thus Petyr loved his silver (re: loved his justice, perhaps against the Starks?) while Dany found her notions of justice restricting her and choking her. I think her throwing off the silver choker might mean that she is no long solely motivated for vengeance against the Usurpers and is widening her outlook to becoming a queen, a ruler, a mother, and a breaker of chains.

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The prophecy is very specific: the maid at the feast with the serpents in her hair is the same maid that will slay the savage giant. It's Sansa. No way around it.

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The prophecy is very specific: the maid at the feast with the serpents in her hair is the same maid that will slay the savage giant. It's Sansa. No way around it.

She didn't miss on any any of the things she saw, she was right on point with the rest

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Interesting theory, I hesitate to adopt it however, because I do have some issues with your conclusions:

Start with Arya as a sheep and a rabbit killer.

The sheep symbolism is rampant throughout the series: Bran lets go of Jamie's arm, "sheepishly" right before Jamie pushes him off the window (perhaps a sign that Bran is a sacrifice?); Tyrion proclaims himself innocent as a lamb; The Lhazareen are called the Lamb men and are often compared to sheep; MMD has Drogo wear a lambskin over his festering wound; the Stokeworths sigil is the lamb Lollys is of course raped by half of flea bottom, while her sister suffers an even more grisly fate when Cersei hands her over to Qyburn for his experiments. The Weirwood tree in White Tree had a mouth large enough to swallow a "sheep" (even though it was human bones inside the mouth...); Craster wears a sheepskin jerkin; Craster gives the Others sheep when he runs out of boys; Arya considers the villagers captured by the Mountain as sheep and then realizes that she too is a sheep; Theon considers killing Benfred Tallhart and his "Wild Hares" as slaughtering sheep; Jarmen Buckwell warns that there are goats among the wildling sheep; Mance gives the Wildlings sheepskin cloaks ect. ect. ect. (this is just some of the imagery I found in the first two books).

I think Arya goes through multiple transformations throughout the story, the sheep (or victim or sacrifice) merely being one of them. I think she has evolved well past that. Perhaps the imagery you've picked up on merely foreshadows that Petyr needs to beware someone he has set up to be sacrificed.

Likewise the rabbit: The rabbit is a trickier critter to figure out in Martin's stories. I think that Arya being identified as a rabbit killer is significant. I also agree with you that Petyr has been subtly linked to rabbit or hare imagery. However we also have the aforementioned Benfred and his Wild Hares, boys who are trying to emulate Robb Stark and his army; Dany becomes queen of the rabbits and puts on her floppy ears after she takes over the throne of Mereen. A Yunkai envoy conveying his threats to "King" Hizdhar is called a rabbit; Gilly is a keeper of rabbits; Ghosts breaks into her rabbit pen and eats several of them; Jon takes one of Ghost's ill gotten rabbits and eats it feeling extremely guilty when he sees Gilly later; Maron Volmark is described as looking like the lord of rabbits after Euron names him Lord of Greenshield. One of the Walder Freys at Winterfell also flushes three rabbits out of the underbrush and manages to kill one with an arrow.

I'm tempted to equate the rabbit with a trickster character and Baelish certainly qualifies, but it doesn't seems to fully envelop all of the rabbit imagery that Martin uses. Regardless this is the part of your theory that I'm most intrigued by.

The imagery of Dany throwing off her silver choker and equating it with a future interaction with Petyr is the weakest part of your theory (well that and the constant need to equate black with Blackfyre. ETA: not saying that you constantly equate black with Blackfyre, I'm just referring to the Board's need to link almost everything with the Blackfyre angle). I think silver may equate with justice in this series. Thus Petyr loved his silver (re: loved his justice, perhaps against the Starks?) while Dany found her notions of justice restricting her and choking her. I think her throwing off the silver choker might mean that she is no long solely motivated for vengeance against the Usurpers and is widening her outlook to becoming a queen, a ruler, a mother, and a breaker of chains.

You make some good, critical points. Another point against my reliance on the sheep symbolism is Petyr made the comment after Arya had the Faceless Man kill Chiswyck, so she was already a mouse and then a ghost. Still I think the George wrote Petyr's comments about fearing the sheep for a reason and I don't see how it would relate to any of the other sheep references you cited above.

The silver chain connection is tenuous. And either can stand alone. Sansa's being a foreshadowing of her submission to Petyr in the Vale and Daenerys's chain had an amethyst, which Xaro swore would ward off poisons--like Melisandre's ruby. But why did the George have her rip it off? If it was to clear the way for the manticore sent by the Sorrowful Man, why did he include it in the first place?

Regarding the hare symbolism if you accept that Petyr can be symbolized by a hare or a rabbit, then Arya being named Rabbitkiller seems more than a coincidence. None of the other rabbit references, accept for Daenerys's floppy ears, appear to relate. And Daenerys seems to have discarded the floppy ears.

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Part III

Daenerys II, Clash

Notice that she observes fountains wrought in the shapes of griffins and dragons and manticores. The griffin and dragon allusions are easy, of course, Jon Connington and Aegon. But the manticore allusion is much more elusive. In case you dont know, the manticore is a chimera, a fantastical beast comprised of the body parts of more than one animal or other mythical beast. The manticore most commonly consisted of a human head, a lions body, a bats wings, and a scorpions tail, but there were other variations. In ASOIAF, the manticore was much smaller, with a malign, black face and an arched, venomous tail, with the ability to fold itself into a scarab. In the real world, the manticore and chimeras were depicted in the art of the Romanesque and Renaissance periods to symbolize fraud. So, we have Jon Connington, Aegon, and fraud.

I'm not so sure that every mention of Griffins necessarily has to equate with Jon Connington. Otherwise, than your manticore should necessarily be Amory Lorch, no? We also have the Griffin King, a First Man king conquered by the Andals. As for the manticore we have body of a lion, Lannister, wings of a bat, Lothston? Whent?, and tail of a scorpion, Dorne and the fate of a certain Lord Tyrell? As for the dragon fountains, could they not simply stand for the Targaryens or perhaps the Valyrians as a whole?

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