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How would you rate episode 410?

How would you rate episode 410?  

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The skeleton scene was brilliant, especially seeing it again in IMAX.

If I need to see something on a TV show at IMAX to make it look good, then I feel it's not been done well.

They still look like Jason and the Argonauts skeletons to me, I'm not even bothered about the whole wights/muscle/blue eyes thing. The scene was also really poorly edited or something, because there are things like Meera pushing over Jojen for some reason.

Also, Pantomime costumes for the CotF. And Albus Bloodraven.

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If I need to see something on a TV show at IMAX to make it look good, then I feel it's not been done well.

They still look like Jason and the Argonauts skeletons to me, I'm not even bothered about the whole wights/muscle/blue eyes thing. The scene was also really poorly edited or something, because there are things like Meera pushing over Jojen for some reason.

Also, Pantomime costumes for the CotF. And Albus Bloodraven.

Totally totally agree!

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I like the skeletons because there are lots of skeletons on the floor of the cave, leading me to think that Jojen died because Bloodraven didn't want him around to counsel Bran against certain things that Bloodraven wants to do, which makes him much more sinister because it implies that he himself had a hand in raising the wights. I don't think that it is also inconsistent for the wights to be decomposed skeletons, that's why you have to burn them after all: unless incinerated they will come back to life.


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As for Bloodraven's makeup, I think I have just accepted that the magic is somewhat downplayed on the show so this wasn't a shock at all. I mean, he's still a treehugger and the actor sold the dialogue from the books very well here.


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Mance deciding to stand down instead of fight

Jojen dying, the terrible looking skeletons, the CotF throwing fireballs

Brienne fighting the hound and then somehow completely losing Arya and not even bothering to check if she went and checked on the hound after

No Lady Stoneheart

No Tysha

No Jamie/ Tyrion conflict which is a major driving force for both characters from here on out

Cersei telling Tywin about her and Jamie

I've been watching you, with a thousand eyes and two

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It was one of my favorite episodes, so I'll give it a 9.



Good:


Jon and Mance


Jon and Tormund


Stannis's charge


Jon, Mance, and Stannis


Ygritte's funeral


Brienne vs. the Hound


Arya leaves the Hound


Arya leaves on a boat to Braavos


Qyburn experimenting of Gregor


Cersei and Tywin


Shae's death


Tywin's death



Neutral:


No Lady Stoneheart (never liked her as a character)


No Tysha (I agree that she would have made the scene more powerful, but I think Tywin's death was still a strong moment for Tyrion


Bloodraven's appearance



Bad:


Skeleton wights


Fireballs


Jojen's death (not that he died, just that his death could have been handled better)

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I gave it a 9 for Stannis goodness and Varys' "nope" moment, but no Stoneheart and no Tysha mention (though I was expecting the latter) was really annoying.



I raged for days over Stoneheart.


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Do not go gentle with that once good show,


Rage, rage, against the dying of the show...


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If I need to see something on a TV show at IMAX to make it look good, then I feel it's not been done well.

They still look like Jason and the Argonauts skeletons to me, I'm not even bothered about the whole wights/muscle/blue eyes thing. The scene was also really poorly edited or something, because there are things like Meera pushing over Jojen for some reason.

Also, Pantomime costumes for the CotF. And Albus Bloodraven.

Um, what? She clearly pushed him over to protect him because he was too weak to fight. In the previous scene he fell over in the snow, too sick to continue just as they arrived to the tree. Not to mention he has been ill most of the way.

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Skeletons? I just.... I....


The only thing I could do was just to laugh. Loudly.


I mean, just WHY couldn't they've just been wights?


All of a sudden these new creatures, who just seem to be randomly designed and not really belonging in the GoT universe, shows up out of nowhere with freakish speed - and then it gets worse when this COTF-girl starts chucking FIREBALLS at them! No words. Just laughter.


There are moments like these that really spoil the good ones - and that's why I feel like commenting on this now, well after I saw this episode. Still, the only season I'll ever go back to is Season 1 - where the atmosphere and setting was way more on point and enjoyable. This show has mainly lost itself more and more from then on.


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It really is an awesome episode. Definitely on my top three list of all episodes. Tyrion's arc especially was extremely good, when he kills Tywin, and when he and Varys get on the boat to the sound of bells ringing, just wow... All in all the entire episode just made me super-excited for season five.

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