sj4iy Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 Season 5 and Season 6 will be probably be AFFC and ADWD combine together. Some things may bleed over into Season 6, but it seems pretty clear that they won't spend two seasons on these two books and leave only one season to cover the next two. To me, Val was just an Ygritte clone. She even said "You know nothing, Jon Snow". It would be ridiculous to introduce her right after Jon has lost Ygritte...especially when they have Tormund as prisoner and can use him as a Val substitute. I see no reason to have her in the show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sj4iy Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 I think if Arianne is out and LS may be out, characters with actual storylines of their own, Val is definitely gone. Also another clue that she is gone - she's a woman. Oh, yes. Just look at all of those strong female characters from the books that they've cut out of the show. It's obvious they hate women. I mean, just look at all of the important things that Val does in the books...like stare out of tower windows, or say Ygritte's catchphrase to Jon, or go get Tormund. Yup, major character there. :bang: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sati Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 Oh, yes. Just look at all of those strong female characters from the books that they've cut out of the show. It's obvious they hate women. I mean, just look at all of the important things that Val does in the books...like stare out of tower windows, or say Ygritte's catchphrase to Jon, or go get Tormund. Yup, major character there. :bang: Hence 'actual' storylines in my original post mention. But bang your head against the wall away, maybe it wlil help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon_Samwell_Snow Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 :bawl: Val..... I want some of that Val and Jon flirting with each other. :crying: Mel and Jon is just..... :ack: :tantrum: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sj4iy Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 :bawl: Val..... I want some of that Val and Jon flirting with each other. :crying: Mel and Jon is just..... :ack: :tantrum: I have a feeling Jon will blow her off. Looking forward to it, actually XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon_Samwell_Snow Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 I have a feeling Jon will blow her off. Looking forward to it, actually XDThose two emoticons are Mel and Jon. Jon is getting sick looking at her. Mel is yelling at him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sj4iy Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 Those two emoticons are Mel and Jon. Jon is getting sick looking at her. Mel is yelling at him. Actually, I would say it's more like the following: :leaving: :commie: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon_Samwell_Snow Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 Actually, I would say it's more like the following: :leaving: :commie: or :devil: :thumbsdown: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mountain That Posts Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 She actually doesn't say "You know nothing, Jon Snow."It's Melisandre who says that, not Val. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mithras Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 She actually doesn't say "You know nothing, Jon Snow."It's Melisandre who says that, not Val. She says. In addition, Tormund says "You know nothing" too. “She seems a sweet girl. You cannot know—”“I can. You know nothing, Jon Snow.” Val seized his arm. “I know,” said Jon Snow.Tormund turned back. “You know nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sj4iy Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 She actually doesn't say "You know nothing, Jon Snow."It's Melisandre who says that, not Val.Yes, she does.Chapter 53 ADWD:"...The child is not clean.""She seems a sweet girl. You cannot know-""I can. You know nothing, Jon Snow." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon_Samwell_Snow Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 Maybe Ygritte told them before she died to say that to Jon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sj4iy Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 Maybe Ygritte told them before she died to say that to Jon. Yeah, it seems like everyone has to say it to him. Don't know why, at this point it's a bit ridiculous. Ygritte, Melisandre, Val, Tormund...come on, he's the Lord Commander for crissakes. It's obvious he knows SOMETHING by now XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon_Samwell_Snow Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 Besides doing the Lord's kiss. He does know something. The poor kid. He has lasted this long then some of his family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonBranRickon Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 I tend to agree - Jon is always under estimated by the people around him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon_Samwell_Snow Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 I tend to agree - Jon is always under estimated by the people around him. No one does not realize that Jon has survived a lot in the books. He does know something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sj4iy Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 No one does not realize that Jon has survived a lot in the books. He does know something. He also knows how to get his ass kicked a lot in the show XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon_Samwell_Snow Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 He also knows how to get his ass kicked a lot in the show XD He's playing opossum. XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sj4iy Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 He's playing opossum. XD Season 1- burned handSeason 2 - beat up by CrasterSeason 3 - hit in head by falling ice while climbing, face ripped up by eagle, shot three times with arrows by YgritteSeason 4 - stabbed in leg by Karl, face anvil smashed by StyrIt seems his face gets the brunt of it. It's like the showrunners enjoy seeing him beat up XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon_Samwell_Snow Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 Season 1- burned handSeason 2 - beat up by CrasterSeason 3 - hit in head by falling ice while climbing, face ripped up by eagle, shot three times with arrows by YgritteSeason 4 - stabbed in leg by Karl, face anvil smashed by StyrIt seems his face gets the brunt of it. It's like the showrunners enjoy seeing him beat up XDThey love their Jon. XDHe looks beautiful still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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