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Matthew Marzolf

"The biggest fire the North has ever seen". (Show Spoilers)

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lol there is a lot of things that go unexplained in the show...i guess because it is cold..not really ideal conditions for keeping a fire blazing


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By the looks of it as well, that fire is an isolated part of the forest. It almost looks like an island amongst the snow.



As the snow melts fuel would reduce and it wouldnt be able to spread.


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It was nothing more than a dumb idea by D&D. The fire served no purpose. Wargs and eagles covered the need for signals. If anything, it would have only negatively impacted the wildling host. Fire/heat to their backs and smoke in their eyes while the guys on the wall look down and laugh at them.



Probably why it also went out .... D&D made the fire dissapear as they realized it was silly.


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The fire was meant to keep the Wights away from the wilding army while they attacked the Wall.



After testing their defences, Mance sent 400 men climbing over the Wall the next day, so he expected to take Castle Black before dark. So if Stannis wouldn't have come, the wilding army would be pouring out south of the Wall by sundown.


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The fire was meant to keep the Wights away from the wilding army while they attacked the Wall.

After testing their defences, Mance sent 400 men climbing over the Wall the next day, so he expected to take Castle Black before dark. So if Stannis wouldn't have come, the wilding army would be pouring out south of the Wall by sundown.

Lol...that's actually a pretty good answer to what wasn't really a serious question. Still, there wasn't even any residual smoke. As a former fire fighter in upstate NY, even in cold snowy weather, the remains of that fire would have been smoking/smoldering quite a bit.

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It was nothing more than a dumb idea by D&D. The fire served no purpose. Wargs and eagles covered the need for signals. If anything, it would have only negatively impacted the wildling host. Fire/heat to their backs and smoke in their eyes while the guys on the wall look down and laugh at them.

Probably why it also went out .... D&D made the fire dissapear as they realized it was silly.

Why call people dumb when there are convincing possibilities like the ones above if you think for a second? Knee-jerk let's slag off the showrunners for no reason.

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Why call people dumb when there are convincing possibilities like the ones above if you think for a second? Knee-jerk let's slag off the showrunners for no reason.

There was literally no evidence given in the show which would support that argument. Yes, it does make more sense than what the show went with, but that does not mean they meant to go with it. It was just bad writing.

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Lol...that's actually a pretty good answer to what wasn't really a serious question. Still, there wasn't even any residual smoke. As a former fire fighter in upstate NY, even in cold snowy weather, the remains of that fire would have been smoking/smoldering quite a bit.

obviously this was a magic fire

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The way I see it, the showrunners don't want to spoon-feed the audience all the details and occassionally allow the images to speak for themselves and let people to draw their own conclusions,



They've shown over the course of the series that Wights don't do well with fire and that the wildlings keep fires burning through the night to hold them at bay. There are quite a few scenes included throughout the series to indicate how the free folk deal with the undead.



So when Mance first announced in Season 3 that he was going to light the biggest fire the north had ever seen, that was my immediate conclusion, that it's meant to keep the Wights away from his people.



And the way the battle for the Wall was laid out, with the fire burning behind the wilding army, only supported that idea.


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There was literally no evidence given in the show which would support that argument. Yes, it does make more sense than what the show went with, but that does not mean they meant to go with it. It was just bad writing.

Why do you need evidence, or even to be given this information? Not everything needs to be explictely explained. It's not bad writing to not explain every little thing. Use your imagination! Every show ever made depends on the viewer filling in the gaps to some lesser or greater extent.

In the time it takes to post on a message board calling the showrunners names we can probably come up with half a dozen good reasons for this and many other of the so-called bad writing scenes.

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Why call people dumb when there are convincing possibilities like the ones above if you think for a second? Knee-jerk let's slag off the showrunners for no reason.

You men like as opposed to knee-jerk fanboi apologism? There's a big difference between conjectured rationalizations and "convincing possibilities." Bad writing is bad writing.

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You men like as opposed to knee-jerk fanboi apologism? There's a big difference between conjectured rationalizations and "convincing possibilities." Bad writing is bad writing.

So you don't think the one mentioned above is a convincing possibility? Why not? I think the show had plenty of bad writing, but in this case it isn't.

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You men like as opposed to knee-jerk fanboi apologism? There's a big difference between conjectured rationalizations and "convincing possibilities." Bad writing is bad writing.

Nope. Suggesting thinking about something before calling people dumb is not knee-jerk. Rather the opposite.

And somehow it's apologism to suggest that the fire went out because heat melts snow and water will eventually dampen a fire? Unless you are chucking more wood on there it would go out eventually anyway. It's plain common sense.

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