Mithras Posted July 22, 2014 Author Share Posted July 22, 2014 3 questions: (1) Where is the information in the books that confirms these statements are correct? (2) Where is the information in the books that confirms these are the only threats from the Others? (3) But even assuming we can draw firm, universal conclusions from the fragmentary info we have been given about the Others (which is not something I would feel comfortable with, personally, as we've seen very little of the OThers), what about other people like Sam, the Old Bear, and Maester Aemon who we have seen making similar statements? Much less all the other nameless folks on the Wall. Even though we know Jon has political opposition, you would figure that most of the folks with common sense would probably hold similar views. They've all either seen the dead rise or heard about it. Wouldn't they all be fearing these things, and not just Jon? I damn sure would. It seems to me that Jon's political opposition are mostly just people who are anti-Jon or anti-change, not people who represent a particularly intelligent point of view. Unless you can answer these questions, you haven't shown either (1) that what Jon knows is true, (2) that what he knows constitutes a full understanding of the threat from the Others, or (3) that others don't know what he knows. Your initial statement that Jon is the only person who fully understands the threat from the Others lacks foundation on any basis. These statements ARE correct but that does not make them automatically embraced by the people. That is a major problem in ASOIAF. The wildlings, the NW, Stannis and the Northmen more or less know these things well. But the problem is that they do/can not set their differences aside or leave their vain pursuits/agendas and cooperate in harmony against the common enemy. That is a problem of leadership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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