Julia Martell Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 So, I'm slowly and painfully coming to terms with the fact that we will be waiting YEARS for tWoW and going over the same material again, and again, and again, and again... Yay to turning Stannis into Chuck Norris and saying awful things about Dany! So to distract me from the staring into the abyss as it stares back into me, let's play a game. Here's a list of some popular theories, rate them from 1 to 10 with 10 being so plausible you more or less consider it canon, and 1 being an explosion in a pot factory. Try to be amusing so I don't get too depressed. R+L=JThe Great Northern ConspiracyfAegon is a BlackfyreCersei and Jaime are secret TargsTyrion is a secret TargVarys is a BlackfyreColdhands is the Night's KingGravedigging HoundRobet Strong is the MountainJojen PasteThe Green Grace is the HarpySepta Lemore is Ashara DayneMissaindei is a Faceless ManOberyn poisoned TywinJeyne is pregnant with the heir to the NorthEuron hired a Faceless Man to kill BalonThe Faceless Men are responsible for the DoomTheon DurdenLyanna was the Knight of the Laughing TreeAlleras = Sarella ETA: Howland Reed = the High Sparrow - how could I forget that one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordStoneheart Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 R+L=J - 10 - fact and naysayers are just jealous The Great Northern Conspiracy - 7 - the specifics change but definitely more to it than just Manderlay fAegon is a Blackfyre - 8 - seems fitting Cersei and Jaime are secret Targs - 1 - changing to zero because stupid Tyrion is a secret Targ - 3 - changing to 1 because obviously, but I do like that "symmetry" aspect someone came up with once Varys is a Blackfyre - 6 - eh just a feeling Coldhands is the Night's King - 6 - also just a feeling but the damn show.... Gravedigging Hound - 10 - obvious Robet Strong is the Mountain - 10 - basically stated Jojen Paste - 10 - if he's not in the paste then he is definitely dead somehow. that passage is frickin eerie The Green Grace is the Harpy - 8 - I'm still holding out hope for Daario being the harpy :P Septa Lemore is Ashara Dayne - 1 - If I never have to see her stupid name again I'll be happy Missaindei is a Faceless Man - 5 - strangely plausible... Oberyn poisoned Tywin - 4 - I really hope so Jeyne is pregnant with the heir to the North - 4 :frown5: If i had a magic wand, this would be my wish theory... Euron hired a Faceless Man to kill Balon - 10 - ghost of high heart does not lie The Faceless Men are responsible for the Doom - 7 - idk they claim it but then again, extraordinary claims, extraordinary evidence... Theon Durden - 1 - hate it. just hate it. Lyanna was the Knight of the Laughing Tree - 10 - the evidence against.. .what evidence against? Alleras = Sarella - 10 - all but stated. ETA: High Sparrow = Howland is not a theory; it's fanfiction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julia Martell Posted August 3, 2014 Author Share Posted August 3, 2014 Here are mine: R+L=J: 9.5 I will be shocked and embarrassed if this one isn't true The Great Northern Conspiracy: 7 I want it to be true fAegon is a Blackfyre: 8 Fits the facts, guys. Cersei and Jaime are secret Targs: 3 I would hate this, but it's technically plausible. Tyrion is a secret Targ: 3 Varys is a Blackfyre: 7 Coldhands is the Night's King: 8 And he should get a POV Gravedigging Hound: 10. Canon. Robet Strong is the Mountain: 10. Who else. Jojen Paste: 6 I find myself strangely attracted to this one. The Green Grace is the Harpy: 7 Septa Lemore is Ashara Dayne: 2. Nah, I don't buy it. Missaindei is a Faceless Man: 4 This would be awesome, but probably not. Oberyn poisoned Tywin: 8 +1 point for pure awesomeness Jeyne is pregnant with the heir to the North: 1 Word of God is good enough for me. Euron hired a Faceless Man to kill Balon: 9 All but canon as far as I'm concerned. The Faceless Men are responsible for the Doom: 7 I love this idea. Theon Durden: 6 Lyanna was the Knight of the Laughing Tree: 8 Alleras = Sarella: 10. Might as well just introduce herself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMysteriousOne Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 R+L=J- 10The Great Northern Conspiracy- 7fAegon is a Blackfyre - 9Cersei and Jaime are secret Targs - 3Tyrion is a secret Targ - 3Varys is a Blackfyre - 5Coldhands is the Night's King - 2Gravedigging Hound - 9Robet Strong is the Mountain - 10Jojen Paste - 8The Green Grace is the Harpy - 9Septa Lemore is Ashara Dayne - 1Missaindei is a Faceless Man - 1Oberyn poisoned Tywin - 6Jeyne is pregnant with the heir to the North - 1 (or maybe 0, since this has been pretty much confirmed not to be true)Euron hired a Faceless Man to kill Balon - 10The Faceless Men are responsible for the Doom - 9Theon Durden - 7Lyanna was the Knight of the Laughing Tree - 9Alleras = Sarella -10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hangover of the Morning Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 I like this hardness scale for theories. Although, as pointed out in one of the comments, "Tormund's member" rather than "Valyrian Steel" should be the term for the most robust theories. R+L=J: 10 (Martin pretty much admitted when he said that D&D guessed it right. There is no Ashara on the show. :-)) The Great Northern Conspiracy: 7fAegon is a Blackfyre: 8Cersei and Jaime are secret Targs: 1Tyrion is a secret Targ: 0Varys is a Blackfyre: 0Coldhands is the Night's King: no opinion Gravedigging Hound: 9Robet Strong is the Mountain: 10Jojen Paste: 4The Green Grace is the Harpy: no opinionSepta Lemore is Ashara Dayne: 2Missaindei is a Faceless Man: 1Oberyn poisoned Tywin: 8Jeyne is pregnant with the heir to the North: 1Euron hired a Faceless Man to kill Balon: 9The Faceless Men are responsible for the Doom: 0Theon Durden: not familiar with that oneLyanna was the Knight of the Laughing Tree: 10Alleras = Sarella: 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearQueen87 Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 R+L=J = 20000000000000000 The Great Northern Conspiracy = 7 fAegon is a Blackfyre = 9 Cersei and Jaime are secret Targs = 3 Tyrion is a secret Targ = 6 Varys is a Blackfyre = 7 (or a Brightflame) Coldhands is the Night's King = 4 Gravedigging Hound = 8 Robet Strong is the Mountain = 10 Jojen Paste = 2 The Green Grace is the Harpy = 9 Septa Lemore is Ashara Dayne = 5 Missaindei is a Faceless Man = 2 Oberyn poisoned Tywin = 2 Jeyne is pregnant with the heir to the North = 6 Euron hired a Faceless Man to kill Balon = 9 The Faceless Men are responsible for the Doom = 3 Theon Durden = 2 Lyanna was the Knight of the Laughing Tree = 10 Alleras = Sarella = 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mladen Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 R+L=J - 10The Great Northern Conspiracy - 9fAegon is a Blackfyre - 9Cersei and Jaime are secret Targs - 3Tyrion is a secret Targ - 3Varys is a Blackfyre - 8Coldhands is the Night's King - 6Gravedigging Hound - 10Robet Strong is the Mountain - 10Jojen Paste - 2The Green Grace is the Harpy - 9Septa Lemore is Ashara Dayne - 5Missaindei is a Faceless Man - 0Oberyn poisoned Tywin - 4Jeyne is pregnant with the heir to the North - 0Euron hired a Faceless Man to kill Balon - 10The Faceless Men are responsible for the Doom - 3Theon Durden - 0Lyanna was the Knight of the Laughing Tree - 10Alleras = Sarella - 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Pepper Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 R+L=J: 10, duh. The Great Northern Conspiracy: 7.5, and I'm only addressing the very basic thesis here in that the North is definitely not in it for Stannis. fAegon is a Blackfyre: 9.5, leaving a little room for a potential Brighfyre lineage, but the point is, he didn't come from the Rhaegun. Cersei and Jaime are secret Targs: -5, They get a neg 5 instead of neg 10 simply because I find the argument so amusing. Tyrion is a secret Targ: see above Varys is a Blackfyre: 4.8, At times I have leaned towards Varys being in it for the Blackfyres, but there are a lot of issues with the theory, namely, why the fuck would he stay true to Illyrio? Coldhands is the Night's King: 5, I'll go middle of the road here because I'm not all that familiar with any theories about Coldhands. Gravedigging Hound: 10, this seems a given Robet Strong is the Mountain: 10, as does this one Jojen Paste: anywhere from 1 to 10. I've read that passage a couple dozen times. It's eerie and dark and I'm not quite sure. The Green Grace is the Harpy: 9, the graces are fairly major in the city and serve a variety of functions (healers, sex workers, etc). Not too hard to consider that the top of that tier lies a woman who holds a lot of sway. Septa Lemore is Ashara Dayne: 1, But Ashara Dayne as Howland's wife and Jojen and Meera's mother would get a 6 Missaindei is a Faceless Man: wut? is this a thing? 1 Oberyn poisoned Tywin: 5, another middle of the road. I think there is good evidence Tywin was gonna be killed regardless. Jeyne is pregnant with the heir to the North: 3 Euron hired a Faceless Man to kill Balon: 8 The Faceless Men are responsible for the Doom: I can't remember what I think about this, so I'll use a 3 since I haven't used that yet. I think. Theon Durden: 5, I like these 5s. Lyanna was the Knight of the Laughing Tree: 10. Is this still in question? Alleras = Sarella: 10, also still in question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liver & onions Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 R+J=L...10The Great Northern Conspiracy...5fAegon is a Blackfyre...8Cersei and Jaime are secret Targs...8 (Going to be a lot of angry fans around here when it comes out they are Targs. I can't wait.)Tyrion is a secret Targ...1Varys is a Blackfyre...8Coldhands is the Night's King...7Gravedigging Hound...10Robert Strong is The Mountain...10Jojeen Paste...8The Green Grace is The Harpy...5Septa Lemore is Ashara Dayne...7Missaindei is a Faceless Man...3Oberyn poisoned Tywin...10Jeyne is pregnant with the heir to the North...5Euron hired a Faceless Man to kill Balon...10The Faceless Men are responsible for the Doom...4Theon Durden...0Lyanna was the Knight of the Laughing Tree....10Alleras = Sarella...10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolorous Gabe Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 R+L=J - 10The Great Northern Conspiracy - 6fAegon is a Blackfyre - 7Cersei and Jaime are secret Targs - 3Tyrion is a secret Targ - 3Varys is a Blackfyre - 3Coldhands is the Night's King - 3Gravedigging Hound - 9Robert Strong is the Mountain - 9Jojen Paste - 4The Green Grace is the Harpy - 8Septa Lemore is Ashara Dayne - 2Missaindei is a Faceless Man - 0Oberyn poisoned Tywin - 8Jeyne is pregnant with the heir to the North - 2Euron hired a Faceless Man to kill Balon - 8The Faceless Men are responsible for the Doom - 4Theon Durden - 3Lyanna was the Knight of the Laughing Tree - 8Alleras = Sarella - 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevvy Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 R+L=J - 10The Great Northern Conspiracy - 10fAegon is a Blackfyre - 1Cersei and Jaime are secret Targs - 1Tyrion is a secret Targ - 1Varys is a Blackfyre - 3Coldhands is the Night's King - 1Gravedigging Hound - 10Robert Strong is the Mountain - 10Jojen Paste - 1The Green Grace is the Harpy - 8Septa Lemore is Ashara Dayne - 4Missaindei is a Faceless Man - 1Oberyn poisoned Tywin - 6Jeyne is pregnant with the heir to the North - 2Euron hired a Faceless Man to kill Balon - 10The Faceless Men are responsible for the Doom - 1Theon Durden - 4Lyanna was the Knight of the Laughing Tree - 10Alleras = Sarella - 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The One And Only Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 You won't be waiting a long time for these theories. Even though this section is for the books only, history has shown us that the theories stop being discussed here once the show confirms them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julia Martell Posted August 3, 2014 Author Share Posted August 3, 2014 You won't be waiting a long time for these theories. Even though this section is for the books only, history has shown us that the theories stop being discussed here once the show confirms them. Huh? What theories has the show confirmed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Carson Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 R+L=J-9The Great Northern Conspiracy-5fAegon is a Blackfyre-6Cersei and Jaime are secret Targs-1Tyrion is a secret Targ-1Varys is a Blackfyre-3Coldhands is the Night's King-2Gravedigging Hound-9Robet Strong is the Mountain-9Jojen Paste-3The Green Grace is the Harpy-7Septa Lemore is Ashara Dayne-5Missaindei is a Faceless Man-0...Oberyn poisoned Tywin-7Jeyne is pregnant with the heir to the North-3Euron hired a Faceless Man to kill Balon-6The Faceless Men are responsible for the Doom-5Theon Durden-5Lyanna was the Knight of the Laughing Tree-7Alleras = Sarella-10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Greg of House House Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 R+L=J - 10The Great Northern Conspiracy- 7 (in some way)fAegon is a Blackfyre - 9Cersei and Jaime are secret Targs - 1Tyrion is a secret Targ - 5 Varys is a Blackfyre - 6Coldhands is the Night's King - 2Gravedigging Hound - 10Robet Strong is the Mountain - 10Jojen Paste - 7The Green Grace is the Harpy - 10Septa Lemore is Ashara Dayne - 5 (just because it would connect her to B. Selmy)Missaindei is a Faceless Man - 1 (wtf)Oberyn poisoned Tywin - 4 (I think it was Varys trying to blame Oberyn)Jeyne is pregnant with the heir to the North - 2Euron hired a Faceless Man to kill Balon - 9The Faceless Men are responsible for the Doom - 8Theon Durden - 6Lyanna was the Knight of the Laughing Tree - 8Alleras = Sarella - 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crowford Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 Gravedigging Hound - 10 (if not, then it's still deliberately written to suggest him, so what's the point?)Robet Strong is the Mountain - 10 (that's pretty obviously stated)R+L=J - 9 (1 off for the possibility that it's going to get subverted just because it's the most popular theory of them all)Lyanna was the Knight of the Laughing Tree - 9Alleras = Sarella - 9Jojen Paste - 8Euron hired a Faceless Man to kill Balon - 8The Great Northern Conspiracy - 7 (because it's a theory with many variables, and not all of them are going to turn out the way the theory suggests)fAegon is a Blackfyre - 7Oberyn poisoned Tywin - 6The Faceless Men are responsible for the Doom - 5Howland Reed = the High Sparrow - 5Varys is a Blackfyre - 4Coldhands is the Night's King - 4Septa Lemore is Ashara Dayne - 4Theon Durden - 4Jeyne is pregnant with the heir to the North - 3Cersei and Jaime are secret Targs - 2Tyrion is a secret Targ - 2The Green Grace is the Harpy - (left blank, I admit I never concerned myself with that theory much)Missaindei is a Faceless Man - (also left blank, never heard that one) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aryagonnakill#2 Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 10- obviously aegon is fake, Jon r+l=j, Gregor is Robert Strong and Sandor is the Grave Digger. If u didn't realize those things in the books yourselves it does not mean you are slow and there is no reason you should disagree simply because you didn't see it, which for some reason some people do. But there is reason for u to not act like u didn't read the books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordToo-Fat-to-Sit-a-Horse Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 R+L=J - 10The Great Northern Conspiracy - 6fAegon is a Blackfyre - 8Cersei and Jaime are secret Targs - 3Tyrion is a secret Targ - 4Varys is a Blackfyre - 6Coldhands is the Night's King - 5Gravedigging Hound - 8Robet Strong is the Mountain - 9Jojen Paste - 6The Green Grace is the Harpy - 8Septa Lemore is Ashara Dayne - 4Missaindei is a Faceless Man - 3Oberyn poisoned Tywin - 7Jeyne is pregnant with the heir to the North - 2Euron hired a Faceless Man to kill Balon - 8The Faceless Men are responsible for the Doom - 6Theon Durden - 7Lyanna was the Knight of the Laughing Tree - 10Alleras = Sarella - 10Howland Reed = the High Sparrow - 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiasyd Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 R+L=J : 10The Great Northern Conspiracy : 8fAegon is a Blackfyre : 6Cersei and Jaime are secret Targs : 2Tyrion is a secret Targ : 3Varys is a Blackfyre : 6Coldhands is the Night's King : 3Gravedigging Hound : 9Robet Strong is the Mountain : 9Jojen Paste : 6 This theory gained some strength after S04 of the show... :(The Green Grace is the Harpy : 5Septa Lemore is Ashara Dayne: 1Missaindei is a Faceless Man: 2Oberyn poisoned Tywin: 9Jeyne is pregnant with the heir to the North : 5Euron hired a Faceless Man to kill Balon : 9The Faceless Men are responsible for the Doom : 6Theon Durden: 7Lyanna was the Knight of the Laughing Tree: 9Alleras = Sarella : 10 ETA: Howland Reed = the High Sparrow : 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wavey Sauce Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 Some of you think that Jaime and Cersei are more likely to be Targs opposed to the Grave digging hound........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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