Julia Martell Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 Is there anyone who doesn't buy R+L=J at this point? Will the R+L=J deniers please stand up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wmarshal Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 I don't buy some of their(R+L+J squad) evidence, but I get theory itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinchanging Sweetrobin Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 I've come around recently to rejecting R+L=J. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Greg of House House Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 Well, Black Hawk tried hard: http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/topic/88336-when-did-toj-take-place-and-if-you-can-tell-me-when-i-will-stop-all-my-therioes-and-bielieve-rlj/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julia Martell Posted August 3, 2014 Author Share Posted August 3, 2014 I've come around recently to rejecting R+L=J. Care to elaborate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonCon's Red Beard Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 I don't buy some of their(R+L+J squad) evidence, but I get theory itself. Agree. I do believe R+L=J, but I don't believe they were married or anything like that. They simply met each other and accidentally* made Jon. (*that sounds like Rhaegar fall on and in Lyanna, lol, no. I mean that they simply got the hots for each other and she got pregnant). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galaxian Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 I understand the theory and all the evidence behind it, but in a personal level I don't like it. I would much rather have Jon being Ned's son, but is just a matter of taste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wmarshal Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 Agree. I do believe R+L=J, but I don't believe they were married or anything like that. They simply met each other and accidentally* made Jon. (*that sounds like Rhaegar fall on and in Lyanna, lol, no. I mean that they simply got the hots for each other and she got pregnant).We seem to agree a lot when talking of Rhaegar or Dany. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aryagonnakill#2 Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 Is there anyone who doesn't buy R+L=J at this point? Will the R+L=J deniers please stand up? Yes, many people who did not find the theory themselves now pretend/ don't believe it. But anyone who is honest with themselves believes it. So no. But if u did not see it yourself you might like to have fun pretending its not true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stateofdissipation Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 r plus l equals j... It ties together a bunch of things. However, there are gaping holes. The Jon is king... should be ditched from the theory because of Robb's will The kingsguard at the ToJ showdown should be ditched after Selmy said he had no choice but to guard who he was ordered to guard R and L had a baby... bed of blood and all... Jon would be about the right age... It is hardly a slam dunk...and the hidden prince is a dead-horse trope... R plus L is way overblown... the most one can say is "could be" but right after that "who cares," A reveal would have meant something in like book 3... now what is the difference Jon is where he is and that has nothing to do with where he came from. It would mean more to Mel than to Jon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonJD Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 I won't assert it as fact until it is actually in the text of the books confirmed. It is extremely likely however, based on the evidence, though that alone may be why it's not true... ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wolves Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 I just need it confirmed or denied its buggin me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balerion06 Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 I believe it, though I don't buy all the evidence the proponents keep putting forward.On a personal level though, I'd much rather have Jon be Ned's son. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Traveler Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 I hate this theory, but there is too much proof to deny it. All I can hope for is that King Bob's version be true, and that his Lyanna was not conscenting, but again, really not plausible :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stateofdissipation Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 I hate this theory, but there is too much proof to deny it. All I can hope for is that King Bob's version be true, and that his Lyanna was not conscenting, but again, really not plausible :( evidence... Lyanna giving birth... Ned's promise... Living a lie for 14 years... Jon is around 14... If you take away "..." you have evidence, Ashara had a baby that died... ---King Corn--- died as a clue with Robb legitimizing Jon --Kingsguard---died in aDwD If GRRM has an a stroke he might decide to go to the dead-horse trope of the hidden prince... If I have one it might seem new... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wavey Sauce Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 The ones who deny are just doing it to be different, deep down they believe and feel they dont want to be another zombie/conformist or what ever the fuck they think, when its obvious as heck now The real question is how do people find out? Or who tells Jon etc? Howland Reed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angalin Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 In order to keep this single theory from proliferating like bacteria and eating the board, I suggest moving discussion over to this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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