Bearded Swordsman Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 So can Bran finally remember that Jaime pushed him out of the tower ? Or will it be a forever unknown for him ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashara's daughter Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 What Bran knows right now is entirely up to speculation but he sure knows a lot more than he did in the previous book. Also, anyone have an idea how much time passes since ADWD? I don't think he's omniscient yet but by the way things seem to be going with him watching Arya's dreams he will be very powerful soon, I'm just not sure whether that's a good thing or not if he remains under BR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword of the Morgan Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 When I read that chapter I thought of it as Bran watching her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyrocket Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 In one of Theon's chapters in ADwD he is kneeling next to the weirwood in Winterfell and he thinks he hears someone say his name, and dismisses it as wind or leaves rustling as well. My first read-through I assumed that it was Bran, because it was only a few chapters prior to that when Bran had seen his father in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bastetcat Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 I am actually surprised no one said: "Nothing. He know's nothing." Wrong boy, I know, but the same blood... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mehmet Eren Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 yeap jon know nothing Bran will know all things yes I also things that bran is watching arya and jon I expect something similar to sansa and rickon and un cat lady stoneheart (tricky) and other people who will have impact on the story which defending others Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voodooqueen126 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 What Bran knows right now is entirely up to speculation but he sure knows a lot more than he did in the previous book. Also, anyone have an idea how much time passes since ADWD? I don't think he's omniscient yet but by the way things seem to be going with him watching Arya's dreams he will be very powerful soon, I'm just not sure whether that's a good thing or not if he remains under BR When Roslin Frey's baby is born we will know it has been 9 months from the Red Wedding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nordahl iceskin Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 When I read ASoS I was pretty sure it was BR who spoke through the crow but when I read about Bran seeing past events in ADwD I decided he influenced Jon to be Lord Commander. He even helped Theon break free of being Reek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curled Finger Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 I can't recall any flat out telepathic communication--BR & Bran have used vehicles (ravens, trees) to connect with others. In that same vein, there is no mention of random or unrelated people reporting visions or voices coming from trees. The NW men make a fuss over some of the words the ravens speak, but that seemed pretty mundane. Mention of LSH was exciting. Why wouldn't Bran or BR know about her? On the other hand, I can't buy into anyone inspiring Sansa's snow castle, as she often longs for home. With that in mind, how will Bran reach Sansa, LSH, Edmure, Jeyne, Black Fish, Sweet Robert? They are all relatives, after all. Why not cousins Karstark, too? Dany gets messages from Quaithe via glass candle, sure, but it's limited communication. Blood is blood, why wouldn't BR have his eye on Dany or Aegon? I would think that with the power to command birds at least, Dany or any of these other relatives would have had something by now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeFaces Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 I can't recall any flat out telepathic communication--BR & Bran have used vehicles (ravens, trees) to connect with others. In that same vein, there is no mention of random or unrelated people reporting visions or voices coming from trees. The NW men make a fuss over some of the words the ravens speak, but that seemed pretty mundane. Mention of LSH was exciting. Why wouldn't Bran or BR know about her? On the other hand, I can't buy into anyone inspiring Sansa's snow castle, as she often longs for home. With that in mind, how will Bran reach Sansa, LSH, Edmure, Jeyne, Black Fish, Sweet Robert? They are all relatives, after all. Why not cousins Karstark, too? Dany gets messages from Quaithe via glass candle, sure, but it's limited communication. Blood is blood, why wouldn't BR have his eye on Dany or Aegon? I would think that with the power to command birds at least, Dany or any of these other relatives would have had something by now? It is hinted that Bran attempted to "speak" to both his father and Theon which seemed to come out as the wind rustling the leaves (the old tongue?), which I found fascinating and could have large ramifications along the lines of influencing and manipulating events in the past and present, depending on the growth of this ability. Besides such, dreams seem to be the manner in which all Starks are beginning to communicate with each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickdt Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 It is hinted that Bran attempted to "speak" to both his father and Theon which seemed to come out as the wind rustling the leaves (the old tongue?), which I found fascinating and could have large ramifications along the lines of influencing and manipulating events in the past and present, depending on the growth of this ability. Besides such, dreams seem to be the manner in which all Starks are beginning to communicate with each other. I doubt that he can influence and manipulate events in the past, because than Bran can influence Lyanna not going to the Tourney of Harrenhall, her not meeting Rhaegar and instead can influence Lyanna agrees to marry Robert. This will effect many things, Roberts Rebellion not happening, his uncle Brandon not death, and thus Robb and his siblings never being born, most likely Ned and Benjen both at the wall. If he can influence things in the past, the whole of Westeros is messed up, with a total different population. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeFaces Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 I doubt that he can influence and manipulate events in the past, because than Bran can influence Lyanna not going to the Tourney of Harrenhall, her not meeting Rhaegar and instead can influence Lyanna agrees to marry Robert. This will effect many things, Roberts Rebellion not happening, his uncle Brandon not death, and thus Robb and his siblings never being born, most likely Ned and Benjen both at the wall. If he can influence things in the past, the whole of Westeros is messed up, with a total different population. Maybe I worded it wrong. Bran has shown that he has the ability to interact with the immediate surroundings of the Winterfell Weirwood tree. I do not think he will change timeline history, but rather realize (or perhaps the just the reader will) his presence within various moments of the past much like how BR is attributed to everything and every event in Westeros. (/s) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grail King Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 There are no weirwoods in the Eyrie's 'Godswood.' Other than that, pretty much yeah. I also think Bran has taken over BR's role as Mormont's raven around halfway through ADWD. Yes there is, it sits on the dais in the Eyrie, Bran most likely saw LF kill Lysa as Sansa lay frighten after Lysa spouted her lines and trying to push Sansa out the moon door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belgarad Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 By now Bran can probably see anything he likes. His problem like Blood Ravens is how do you tell anybody what they need to know. That will be Hodor's job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wolfswood Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 ^ Yes, I think that Hodor is not physically mute because he can say 'Hodor', but if Bran can skinchange him he may be able to move around and communicate. The problem will be getting Hodor back out of that cave (with Meera & possibly Jojen) and back to safety. Maybe Summer and Coldhands would also help in the attempt at a return journey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grail King Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 ^ Yes, I think that Hodor is not physically mute because he can say 'Hodor', but if Bran can skinchange him he may be able to move around and communicate. The problem will be getting Hodor back out of that cave (with Meera & possibly Jojen) and back to safety. Maybe Summer and Coldhands would also help in the attempt at a return journey. I think Jojen may be dead, or he will die very soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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