Taenqyrhae Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 When Melisandre is describing the different focii that can be used to impersonate someone with a glamour, one of the things she mentions are knuckle bones. Somebody is going to impersonate Davos, if they aren't already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryanfury Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Something I only recently picked up on, when Cat is discussing terms with Walder Frey, the old man voices displeasure at another person and says something akin to "Apologies are words. What good are apologies to me?". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowHeart Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 When Melisandre is describing the different focii that can be used to impersonate someone with a glamour, one of the things she mentions are knuckle bones. Somebody is going to impersonate Davos, if they aren't already.That would be awesome but I can't help think 'and how will they manage that?' The blackwater is a big fast moving river with an enormous bay, and it was ever so slightly on fire and covered in wreckage. And given Davos is on Skaggos or somewhere in the north, that's a lot of travelling been done from KL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taenqyrhae Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 That would be awesome but I can't help think 'and how will they manage that?' The blackwater is a big fast moving river with an enormous bay, and it was ever so slightly on fire and covered in wreckage. And given Davos is on Skaggos or somewhere in the north, that's a lot of travelling been done from KL. Melisandre has been successful looking for specific things in her fires. All she'd have to do is look in the fires and try to see the pouch Davos kept his finger bones in, probably washed up on the shore of the Blackwater or on the beach near where it enters the Narrow Sea. Send someone to pick them up, and now Davos can be in two places at once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Melnibonean Posted December 19, 2014 Author Share Posted December 19, 2014 Ser Daven put his wine cup down. "My scouts report fires in the high places at night. Signal fires, they think . . . as if there were a ring of watchers all around us. And there are fires in the villages as well. Some new god . . ." Jaime V, FeastWhile Aegon is like to receive the backing of the Faith, I don't think that will help him with the smallfolk in the Riverlands. It'll be interesting to see if Moqorro can raise a rabble from men converted by Thoros to fight Aegon for Daenerys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Melnibonean Posted December 22, 2014 Author Share Posted December 22, 2014 I'd be surprised if this hadn't been mentioned before, but I just saw it this time around...The old Valyrian word sent a chill through her, though it also gave her a tingle of hope. "The Imp is no longer my brother, if he ever was," she declared. "Nor will I say his name. It was a proud name once, before he dishonored it.""In Tyrosh we name him Redhands, for the blood running from his fingers. A king's blood, and a father's. Some say he slew his mother too, ripping his way from her womb with savage claws." Cersei VIII, FeastTyrion will serve as the red dragon's hand. You know it might also be inconsistent to assume that Daenerys will trust Tyrion but reject Aegon since she was warned about the mummer's dragon. She was also warned about the lion.And we should encounter a dwarf in or from Oldtown...Sad to say, the three would-be informers proved no more useful than the Tyroshi. One said that the Imp was hiding in an Oldtown brothel, pleasuring men with his mouth. It made for a droll picture, but Cersei did not believe it for an instant. The second claimed to have seen the dwarf in a mummer's show in Braavos. The third insisted Tyrion had become a hermit in the riverlands, living on some haunted hill. Cersei VIII, FeastWe found the mummer dwarf in Bravos in Mercy, Winds, and the hermit in the Riverlands is the Ghost of High Heart. We need an Oldtown dwarf to close the loop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Melnibonean Posted December 30, 2014 Author Share Posted December 30, 2014 This possible foreshadowing occurs in chapter 36 of Feast...Tommen helped restore her to herself. He had never been more precious to her than he was that morning, chattering about his kittens as he dribbled honey onto a chunk of hot black bread fresh from the ovens. "Ser Pounce caught a mouse," he told her, "but Lady Whiskers stole it from him."Cersei VIII, FeastAround the same time, but five chapters later, Petyr introduces Ser Shadrich, called the Mad Mouse, to Sansa. We met Shadrich much earlier, when he told Brienne that he was hunting Sansa for the gold promised by Varys. I see two possible foreshadowings here. Ser Pounce could be Varys and Lady Whiskers could be Petyr, which would foreshadow Shadrich leaving Varys's service for Petyr's in chapter 41 of Feast. Alternatively, Ser Pounce could be Petyr and Lady Whiskers could be Sansa, which would foreshadow Sansa befriending Shadrich and winning his loyalty. I just don't see how the latter theory would fit with what we know of Shadrich's nature. But we don't know very much about him yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J. Stargaryen Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 Theon Greyjoy seized Robb’s arm to keep him away from the prince [Joffrey]. Ser Rodrik tugged at his whiskers in dismay. - AGoT, Arya I During the Stark vs. Baratheon/Lannister sparring sessions in Winterfell. After Bran and Tommen finished, Robb and Joffrey were discussing going another round. This pair of sentences caught my eye, as possible foreshadowing of Theon's betrayal of the Starks. It doesn't strike me as a clue that will help you figure out what is going to happen, but something small that you might notice on a reread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lydia Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 I don’t know if it applies to foreshadowing, but I was re-reading ASOS and paid more attention to this conversation between Oberyn and Tyrion:“I had just been born. What did you expect of me?”“Enormity,” the black-haired prince replied. “You were small, but far-famed. We were in Oldtown at your birth, and all the city talked of was the monster that had been born to the King’s Hand, and what such an omen might foretell for the realm.”“Famine, plague, and war, no doubt.” Tyrion gave a sour smile. “It’s always famine, plague, and war. Oh, and winter, and the long night that never ends.”“All that,” said Prince Oberyn, “and your father’s fall as well. Lord Tywin had made himself greater than King Aerys, I heard one begging brother preach, but only a god is meant to stand above a king. You were his curse, a punishment sent by the gods to teach him that he was no better than any other man.”He indirectly did that. He dismissed Jeor’s claims about the possible return of the Others, keeping the NW from getting reinforcements (or better, the one he sent, Janos Slynt, wasn't very useful). Catelyn’s kidnapping of him caused an armed conflict between Lannisters and Lions, which escalated further with the War of the Five Kings; KL’s people blamed him for bringing several miseries upon them (including famine, which culminated with the riot). Then, he killed Tywin. After that, he convinced fAegon to go to Westeros with JonCon, after JonCon caught grayscale saving Tyrion’s life. Oberyn also says people spoke of Tyrion's tail, and many readers think he has a role to play in the second dance, as well as being the byproduct of Aerys and Joanna’s rape/affair/love story/something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Melnibonean Posted January 2, 2015 Author Share Posted January 2, 2015 Jaime and Petyr will side with Aegon against Daenerys in the upcoming dance. In Jaime's weirwood stump dream BR, who sided with the red dragon against the black, sent Jaime's fallen Kingsguard brothers to hammer home Jaime's crime when he betrayed Aerys, notwithstanding Jaime's defense that Aerys planned to burn KL. Rhaegar reminded him that he left his wife and children in Jaime's hands. BR seems to be preparing Jaime to raise up Jon, Rhaegar's heir, as king. And all for naught. They found only darkness, dust, and rats. And dragons, lurking down below. He remembered the sullen orange glow of the coals in the iron dragon's mouth. The brazier warmed a chamber at the bottom of a shaft where half a dozen tunnels met. On the floor he'd found a scuffed mosaic of the three-headed dragon of House Targaryen done in tiles of black and red. I know you, Kingslayer, the beast seemed to be saying. I have been here all the time, waiting for you to come to me. And it seemed to Jaime that he knew that voice, the iron tones that had once belonged to Rhaegar, Prince of Dragonstone.Jaime I, FeastJaime identifies with the Warrior...Why would Cersei need the Warrior? She has me. Jaime II, FeastAnd the Warrior protects children...The Warrior stands before the foe,protecting us where e'er we go.With sword and shield and spear and bow,he guards the little children. Samwell II, Storm"They belonged to Criston Cole, who served the first Viserys and the second Aegon." Jaime closed the White Book. "They called him Kingmaker." Jaime II, FeastBut perhaps Jaime will believe Aegon's claim? Here is a telling quote from Barristan on his path to redemption after taking Robert's pardon..."That was when I knew that to redeem myself I must find the true king, and serve him loyally, with all the strength that still remained me."Daenerys II, DanceAnd here's Jaime telling Lancel what he thought of Robert..."Robert was no true king." Jaime IV, FeastWhen he descended for the feast that night, Jaime Lannister wore a doublet of red velvet slashed with cloth-of-gold, and a golden chain studded with black diamonds. He had strapped on his golden hand as well, polished to a fine bright sheen. This was no fit place to wear his whites. His duty awaited him at Riverrun; a darker need had brought him here. Jaime IV, FeastBlack on Red, like the Blackfyre dragon...Assuming Jaime is Cersei's valonqar, this quote would tie in nicely with Jaime unwittingly supporting the black dragon...Black had never been a happy color on her. With her fair skin, it made her look half a corpse herself. Cersei II, FeastOn the road with Illyrio, Tyrion describes a dream..."I dreamed about the queen," he said. "I was on my knees before her, swearing my allegiance, but she mistook me for my brother, Jaime, and fed me to her dragons." Tyrion II, DanceIf Jaime supports Aegon, believing him to be Rhaegar's son, against Daenerys, Tyrion's dream could very well foreshadow the Kingslayer's fate. And here's what Jaime thinks about Petyr...Littlefinger was as amiable as he was clever, but too lowborn to threaten any of the great lords, with no swords of his own. The perfect Hand. Jaime VII, FeastPetyr may treat with Daenerys but when it's time to dance, he will side with Aegon, and Daenerys, probably influenced by Tyrion is likely to push him in that direction...Thank you, but no. Littlefinger flashed his mocking smile. Drink with the dwarf, its said, and you wake up walking the Wall. Black brings out my unhealthy pallor.Tyrion IV, ClashThe next three quotes foreshadow Petyr taking Sansa to the Vale...The Arryns are descended from the Kings of Mountain and Vale, one of the oldest and purest lines of Andal nobility. Their sigil is the moon-and-falcon, white upon a sky blue field. Appendix, GamePetyr had been a small boy, and he had grown into a small man, an inch or two shorter than Catelyn, slender and quick, with the sharp features she remembered and the same laughing grey-green eyes. He had a little pointed chin beard now, and threads of silver in his dark hair, though he was still shy of thirty. They went well with the silver mockingbird that fastened his cloak. Even as a child, he had always loved his silver. Catelyn IV, GameHis eldest daughter stepped forward hesitantly. She was dressed in blue velvets trimmed with white, a silver chain around her neck. Eddard III, GameNow compare that bit with this bit..."A dream delayed, no more." Dany's tight silver collar was chafing against her throat. She unfastened it and flung it aside. Daenerys III, ClashSo Petyr will be rejected by Daenerys, perhaps due to Tyrion's influence, and throw in with Aegon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headless Wolf Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 When the Old Bear gave Jon Longclaw and told him its name Jon said something like "Wolves have claws too." It reminds me of a certain verse in the Rains of Castamere "and mine are long, and sharp my lord, as long and sharp as yours." Perhaps Jon plays a part in the Lannister downfall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Melnibonean Posted January 5, 2015 Author Share Posted January 5, 2015 "Irri, bring the green tokar, the silk one fringed with Myrish lace.""That one is being repaired, Khaleesi. The lace was torn. The blue tokar has been cleaned."Daenerys VI, DanceDaenerys will wed Aegon, but their marriage will be torn apart when the dance begins. Jon will end up with Drogo.ETA: I meant to say Drogon... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grail King Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 This may not be new here, but Ned says this of hte upcoming "winter" to Robert in the Crypts at WF: Hoping it is a foreshadowing... Maybe? Please? :crying: My fear is he may be wrong: He was wrong about Garret Wrong on the wolves winding up sacrificing Lady ( I hope that isn't a foreshadowing) Wrong on Robert Wrong on LF , but for 15 + years almost everyone was wrong there Wrong on Cersei Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Melnibonean Posted January 5, 2015 Author Share Posted January 5, 2015 "Ser Grandfather knows how to count. The Second Sons have gone over to the Yunkai'i." Daario turned his head and spat. "That's for Brown Ben Plumm. When next I see his ugly face I will open him from throat to groin and rip out his black heart." Daenerys VI, DanceWith the aid of Tyrion and Viserion Ben will return to Daenerys's good graces but when she and Aegon choose dancing partners Ben will side with the black dragon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Melnibonean Posted January 6, 2015 Author Share Posted January 6, 2015 Tyrion would like this one. Jaime on Hoster Blackwood, Jaime I, DanceI think we'll see Hoster again in a future Tyrion POV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mithras Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Jaime on Hoster Blackwood, Jaime I, DanceI think we'll see Hoster again in a future Tyrion POV. Or in a Sansa POV when they are both prisoners of Cersei in KL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisdaw Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 The Riverlands will rebel again. The Tully garrison departed the next morning, stripped of all their arms and armor. Each man was allowed three days' food and the clothing on his back, after he swore a solemn oath never to take up arms against Lord Emmon or House Lannister. "If you're fortunate, one man in ten may keep that vow," Lady Genna said. And Jaime will want to execute Hoster, as Tywin would have and as he must if the IT taking hostages to ensure loyalty is to remain a valid strategy. all these are outlaws and rebels, enemies to the king and all his leal subjects. If I should learn that you or yours are hiding them, protecting them or assisting them in any way, I will not hesitate to send you your son's head. I hope you understand that. Understand this as well: I am not Ryman Frey." "No." All trace of warmth had left Lord Blackwoood's mouth. "I know who I am dealing with. Kingslayer." But Tyrion won't let him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mithras Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 “Rhaegar’s rubies?”“It may be. Who can say? The battle was long leagues from here, but the river is tireless and patient. Six have been found. We are all waiting for the seventh.”“Better rubies than bones.” Septon Meribald was rubbing his foot, the mud flaking off beneath his finger. “Not all the river’s gifts are pleasant. The good brothers collect the dead as well. Drowned cows, drowned deer, dead pigs swollen up to half the size of horses. Aye, and corpses.”“Too many corpses, these days.” The Elder Brother sighed. “Our gravedigger knows no rest. Rivermen, westermen, northmen, all wash up here. Knights and knaves alike. We bury them side by side, Stark and Lannister, Blackwood and Bracken, Frey and Darry. That is the duty the river asks of us in return for all its gifts, and we do it as best we can. Sometimes we find a woman, though . . . or worse, a little child. Those are the cruelest gifts.” Ser Sandor will take the black. Too many corpses are coming up and the gravedigger has to deal with them relentlessly. This sounds like the wight problem. Once again the civil war will hit Riverlands due to the Second Dance. This time, zombie apocalypse will be raging on as well. I am sure that at one point Jon will send word to all the contenders about the Others and wights. Again, monarchs or lords will mostly ignore the call but I think his summon will find response among the smallfolk and the residents of the Quiet Isle as well. Sandor will be healed physically and spiritually. He will overcome his fear of fire, which will be declared by Jon as the best way to kill these wights. He will head North to defend the Realm. I think Jon’s summon will include the information that he is Rhaegar’s son; hence the seventh ruby of Rhaegar theory will kick in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Melnibonean Posted January 18, 2015 Author Share Posted January 18, 2015 This could foreshadow a tide of Ironborn victories in Winds, no? "... I may die before I see my Seven Kingdoms. Hizdahr may die. Westeros may be swallowed by the waves." Daenerys VII, Dance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Brandon Badwater Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Jon XII ASOS "and then, the years were gone and he was back at winterfell once more" Foreshadows jons fate for the start of TWOW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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