Jalabar Xho Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 "The whole world was spread out below him, a tapestry of white and brown and green. ... saw clear across the narrow sea, to the Free Cities and the green Dothraki sea and beyond, to Vaes Dothrak under its mountain, to the fabled lands of the Jade Sea, to Asshai by the Shadow, where dragons stirred beneath the sunrise." Hey guys, this is my second post surrounding dragons in asoiaf and I have had an idea that spouted from a recent purchase. So I bought the map collection, 'The Lands of Ice and Fire',and essentially I looked around the area everyone wants to see... Asshai.I looked here for two reasons,1.) Ghost grass, as a lover of the Dothraki I simply had to look at an artistic impression of something I have always wondered about2.) The Red God, now Asshai is arguably the most mysterious city, perhaps second to Valyria, and it is unquestionably the most magical and 'free' (people practice what they wish in Asshai) city on the globe. Asshai is by the shadow, whatever that means, and it situated at the edge of a vast peninsula comprised of volcanic and mountainous scenery. Now to me this is eerily reminiscent of Valyria and the fourteen fires, where Dragons were found. Now 'The Shadow' is possibly a thousand times bigger than the FF and arguably replicates the conditions found in the Valyrian volcanoes. Essentially I feel there are Dragons in Asshai, though they are hidden away inside the Volcanoes and may be dormant. I understand this lacks the credibility of most theories (I'm not even sure it can be called a theory) although I feel their could be some credibility to it and Bran's vision was simply a hint left by GRRM.thanks for reading, please leave any comments or revisions below!Jalabar Xho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Drowned Prophet Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 Asshai is by the shadow, whatever that means The Shadow Lands is the area to the Northwest of Asshai, thus people talk about 'Asshai by the Shadow'. The wiki describes the Shadow Lands as "mountainous peninsula". Just FYI. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jalabar Xho Posted September 21, 2014 Author Share Posted September 21, 2014 And Danny's eggs are said to be from there... Just FYI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Melnibonean Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 I agree more or less. But I don't expect wild dragons from the far east to impact our plot unless they come swooping down to save Master Snow and Samwise... I mean Samwell... after Hardhome blows... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Santa of House Claus Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 I find it very likely that there are dragons in Asshi, maybe they are hibernating or hidden, or maybe just waking now with the birth of Dany's dragons and the reemergence of magic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibzit Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 youd think asshai would be much bigger if they had dragons, just look at valyria's borders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Melnibonean Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 youd think asshai would be much bigger if they had dragons, just look at valyria's bordersCouldn't...The lords freeholder of Valyria ruled the greater part of the known world; they were sorcerers, great in lore, and alone of all the races of man they had learned to breed dragons and bend them to their will. Forward to The Sworn Sword Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stannis's Lawyer Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 youd think asshai would be much bigger if they had dragons, just look at valyria's borders Maybe Yi Ti has something that can defeat them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warrewal Halfaxe Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 I hope not, and that it was the past that Bran saw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archmaester Drew Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 Welcome to the forum! :cheers: I think there are dragons in the Shadowlands around Asshai, but the Asshai'i have not learned to control them like the Valyrians had. :) I hope not, and that it was the past that Bran saw Vaes Dothrak has only been around for less than 400 years (after the Doom), so even if it was in the past, it would be post Doom and dragonlords... :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waylin Stark Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 I agree more or less. But I don't expect wild dragons from the far east to impact our plot unless they come swooping down to save Master Snow and Samwise... I mean Samwell... after Hardhome blows... Else we'll have another Eagle situation from the LotR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmure's Floppy Fish Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 And Danny's eggs are said to be from there... Just FYIWhere is that said? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhaenys' kitten Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 Where is that said? Dany's wedding to Drogo. "Dragon's eggs, from the Shadow Lands beyond Asshai," said Magister Illyrio. "The eons have turned them to stone, yet still they burn bright with beauty." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Melnibonean Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Dany's wedding to Drogo. And at least part of Illyrio's fortune came from trading in dragonbone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmure's Floppy Fish Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Dany's wedding to Drogo. Cool! I totally missed that! I have been thinking it was a mystery that will be revealed later, to have some impact on the story. Thanks for the reference! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady of Dragonstone Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 And at least part of Illyrio's fortune came from trading in dragonbone. I missed this somehow. How ironic. What intrigues me about this vision has always been "beneath the sunrise." Asshai is typically seen as a "dark" place to me, literally (by the shadow) and figuratively (dark magic). But there is an abundance of light beneath a sunrise. Very nice imagery from GRRM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liver & onions Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 I think the dragons Bran saw from Asshai were a metaphor for Quaithe and Melisandre...sort of how Dareon in The Hedge Knight saw a dead dragon that turned out to be Baelor. Both ladies are from there and could have blood of the dragon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0ny_Stark Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 The Shadow Lands is the area to the Northwest of Asshai, thus people talk about 'Asshai by the Shadow'. The wiki describes the Shadow Lands as "mountainous peninsula". Just FYI. :)Asshai is supposed to be situated between two mountain ranges so tall and close that the light of the sun only reaches the bottom of the valley very briefly each day. Hence the name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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