aryagonnakill#2 Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 In the spoiler chapter with Theon there is an answer, if you care to read it. Stannis sent fArya to her brother Jon at the wall along with Alysanne Mormont. Accept Jon is out of commission in all likelihood. The real answer is we don't know and thats not a small question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lommy's Shade Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Has GRRM ever said why the Stark rulers were titled King in the North, rather than the more obvious King of the North. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dream Wind Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Wasn't barristan too old for ashara like 22-3 years older than her, the pairing seems too weird had he not been in KG his daughter would be of her age or am I miscalculating her age Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Knightmare Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Wasn't barristan too old for ashara like 22-3 years older than her, the pairing seems too weird had he not been in KG his daughter would be of her age or am I miscalculating her age Yeah she would've been at least 20 years younger then him, if he wasn't in Kingsguard he would most probably have been married before she was born :P But Walder Frey's wife is 16 he is 98, so age doesn't really matter it would seem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red Widow of Coldmoat Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 A 40 year old man getting together with a 20 year old woman is far from unheard of even in the modern west, let alone the world of child brides that is Westeros. As far as Westerosi relatioships go, the age difference between Barristan and Ashara is far less than the age difference between Jon Arryn and Lysa Tully, for example Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhaenys_Targaryen Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Wasn't barristan too old for ashara like 22-3 years older than her, the pairing seems too weird had he not been in KG his daughter would be of her age or am I miscalculating her ageBarristan was some 20 years older, yeah, but in Westerosi times, such an age difference is barely noticeable. Besides the obvious age differences between Waldwr Frey and all of his more recent wives, think aboutEldon Estermont (70) and his 23 year old bride, for example, or Edmure (early 30, late 20) and his 16 year old bride, or Roose Bolton (past 40) and his 15-something year old bride.And Barristan wasn't looking for a marriage. He had a crush.Has GRRM ever said why the Stark rulers were titled King in the North, rather than the more obvious King of the North.The title "King in the North" leaves room for expansion of the realm, perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yukle Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Has GRRM ever said why the Stark rulers were titled King in the North, rather than the more obvious King of the North. Their title is actually the "King of Winter." The slight differences in their culture, and the fact that they spoke the Old Tongue for longer than the Andal kingdoms may mean that they've simply adopted different language conventions. So they may use the preposition "of" in place of "in". As an example in real life: US English ties the word off to a preposition but UK English doesn't. So in US English, it'd be: "I jumped off of a swing, what fun!" whereas in UK English it'd be, "I jumped off a swing, what fun!" Perhaps, also, it's from the fact that the Starks were not always Kings of the entirety of the North and may therefore have styled themselves as Kings IN the North as they didn't lay claim to the parts they had no power over. But that's not GRRM saying it, that's me speculating; I'm not sure if he ever said why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dream Wind Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 What name do bastards son or daughter take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight Of Winter Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 What name do bastards son or daughter take. Depends on where they were born. In North it is Snow, in Dorne it's Sand... North - Snow Dorne - Sand Riverlands - Rivers Westerlands - Hill Iron Islands - Pyke Vale - Stone Crownlands - Waters Reach - Flowers Stormlands - Storm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhaenys_Targaryen Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 What name do bastards son or daughter take.the child of a bastard? Depends.. if the bastard (male) is married, his children take his surename. Unmarried, the children won't have a surename..With female bastards who marry, I'm not sure.. it would depend on who they marry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlaars Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Why did Victarion feel obligated to kill his wife after Euron...did his thing; especially in such a brutal manner and with his own hands (if I'm correct)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Melnibonean Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Why did Victarion feel obligated to kill his wife after Euron...did his thing; especially in such a brutal manner and with his own hands (if I'm correct)?Honor. (I know, I know...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight Of Winter Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 the child of a bastard? Depends.. if the bastard (male) is married, his children take his surename. Unmarried, the children won't have a surename..With female bastards who marry, I'm not sure.. it would depend on who they marry.GGRM expanded a bit on that subject: Bastard names are given only to bastards with at least one parent of high birth. So the bastard child of two peasants would have no surname at all.Thus a bastard name like "Snow" or "Rivers" is simultaneously a stigma and a mark of distinction. The whole thing with bastard names is custom, not law.The highborn parent can bestow the usual name, a new one of his/her own devising, or none at all. Most legitimate sons of bastards keep the bastard name, but there are cases where a later generation fiddles with it to remove the taint. There's one such case that you will meet in the next book, a minor character descended from a Waters (a bastard name along the shores of Blackwater Bay) whose great grandfather changed the name to Longwaters for just that reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhaenys_Targaryen Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 GGRM expanded a bit on that subject: Bastard names are given only to bastards with at least one parent of high birth. So the bastard child of two peasants would have no surname at all. Thus a bastard name like "Snow" or "Rivers" is simultaneously a stigma and a mark of distinction. The whole thing with bastard names is custom, not law. The highborn parent can bestow the usual name, a new one of his/her own devising, or none at all. Most legitimate sons of bastards keep the bastard name, but there are cases where a later generation fiddles with it to remove the taint. There's one such case that you will meet in the next book, a minor character descended from a Waters (a bastard name along the shores of Blackwater Bay) whose great grandfather changed the name to Longwaters for just that reason. True, and to expand even further BASTARDS’ OFFSPRING [summary: Pamela asks what would happen if two bastards of different areas (she uses Snow and Rivers as an example) married: what name would a child take?] Interesting question. The child would most likely take the father's surname. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonCon's Red Beard Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Does "Mance Ryder" means, phonetically, something? I feel I'm missing something here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumHam Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Does "Mance Ryder" means, phonetically, something? I feel I'm missing something here. People have speculated that Rayder (Raider) is a bastard name for wildlings taken in by the Watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Condon Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 So i was wondering has anyone ever considered that passing beneath the shadow in the prophecy Quithe gave Daenerys could be passing through old valyria? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aryagonnakill#2 Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 ^Yes, but we don't know for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACVG Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Don't know how to use spoiler tags so had to delete world's question. ...sorry! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight Of Winter Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Don't know how to use spoiler tags so had to delete world's question. ...sorry! like this: your text goes here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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