Colonel Green Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Assuming these Hightower/Targaryen daughters all married someone, this means that could be other houses with targ blood, maybe in the Reach. Most obviously, of course, if Garmund was lord, the present-day Hightowers would presumably be descended from one of them. That would spread Targaryen blood pretty far and wide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
House Volton Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Who was the prince of dragonflies bethroted toWhy did the Lannisters support Egg during succession crisis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bael's Bastard Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Who was the prince of dragonflies bethroted to Why did the Lannisters support Egg during succession crisis Duncan was betrothed to a daughter of Lyonel Baratheon, the Laughing Storm. I think the support came from Gerold Lannister. Perhaps Egg will play a role in he and Rohanne getting together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonCon's Red Beard Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 The Targaryen Tree... is a whole forest... Would look good on my office, though... "yeah, those are my ancestors... from... erm... Italy" :dunno: I dunno what to think of Dany having Dayne/Blackwood blood. I think it's a case of the "stars aligned" so she and Jon would be both Ice and Fire, so to speak. If this is important, I think we might know in future ASOIAF books, otherwise, it's just side information with little relevance (remember that no everybody buys the books and it shouldn't be an obligation). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearQueen87 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Okay. I still don't have my book (Amazon says Friday...I may cry...) but I finally broke down and read spoilers because I am weak. 1) Egg marrying a Blackwood almost made me fall out of my chair. And if BR had something to do with it....yeah, that's big. 2) Jaehaerys II marrying his sister and Aegon not putting it aside, another biggie. 3) Egg's third son (finally...A NAME!!!) as gay and (am I understanding this right?) rejected Oleanna? 4) I think I'm still confused how Dunk and Brienne end up related. So...did Dunk marry Daella (Aegon's sister?) and then from them come Brienne's family? (sorry, again...no book) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonCon's Red Beard Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 ^3. You're correct. I laughed at that part. I read and I said "wait a minute....". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearQueen87 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 ^3. You're correct. I laughed at that part. I read and I said "wait a minute....". Oleanna is bitter over being rejected by the youngest--and gay--son of Aegon. I won't lie. This makes me laugh as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhaenys_Targaryen Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Okay. I still don't have my book (Amazon says Friday...I may cry...) but I finally broke down and read spoilers because I am weak. 1) Egg marrying a Blackwood almost made me fall out of my chair. And if BR had something to do with it....yeah, that's big. 2) Jaehaerys II marrying his sister and Aegon not putting it aside, another biggie. 3) Egg's third son (finally...A NAME!!!) as gay and (am I understanding this right?) rejected Oleanna? 4) I think I'm still confused how Dunk and Brienne end up related. So...did Dunk marry Daella (Aegon's sister?) and then from them come Brienne's family? (sorry, again...no book) 3) O yes.. :D 4) That's a theory.. But with Tarth having recent connections to the Targaryens, and Brienne specifically having a recent connection to Dunk, there are only a few options..Selwyn Tarth is 54 years old in 300AC, so perhaps his mother, was the Targaryen/Dunk offspring? She would have been born roughly 20 years prior, or average (though it could be 15, and it could be 25).. Which would bring us close to the time Aegon married Betha.. Also, the marriage, if it existed, can't have lasted long, as Duncan would join the KG eventually (yet we haven't learned exactly when). Perhaps there was only one child? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonCon's Red Beard Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 4) I think I'm still confused how Dunk and Brienne end up related. So...did Dunk marry Daella (Aegon's sister?) and then from them come Brienne's family? (sorry, again...no book) Daella doesn't appeared as married in the Tree. Oleanna is bitter over being rejected by the youngest--and gay--son of Aegon. I won't lie. This makes me laugh as well. She and Marg could be bitter beards together :3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bael's Bastard Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 I was told the oldest reference to Dunk as a KG is 236 AC, so there is a pretty significant possible gap between that and the most recent Dunk and Egg story for him to have a marriage and children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearQueen87 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Daella doesn't appeared as married in the Tree. Didn't Ran say a page or some back that they can't fit all the marriages on a the tree? I guess we'll really learn in future D and E novellas. But if it is true, then how did that come about? Daella was betrothed to Egg, yes? And then she ends up marrying his closest friend and knight? Now THAT is a story I want to hear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bael's Bastard Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 I don't take the lack of marriages for Egg's sisters on the tree to mean they didn't marry. We were already told before the book came out that the marriages and children of every sibling of the main line would not be in the tree. And it has already been explicitly stated in the books (granted, by an old man not fully in control of things) that they had children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bael's Bastard Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 Didn't Ran say a page or some back that they can't fit all the marriages on a the tree? I guess we'll really learn in future D and E novellas. But if it is true, then how did that come about? Daella was betrothed to Egg, yes? And then she ends up marrying his closest friend and knight? Now THAT is a story I want to hear. I don't remember which book Egg mentions it in, but I always had the impression that the betrothal to Daella was already a thing of the past when he mentioned it (209-212 AC). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoIaF Posted October 28, 2014 Author Share Posted October 28, 2014 The Targaryen Tree... is a whole forest... Would look good on my office, though... "yeah, those are my ancestors... from... erm... Italy" :dunno: I dunno what to think of Dany having Dayne/Blackwood blood. I think it's a case of the "stars aligned" so she and Jon would be both Ice and Fire, so to speak. If this is important, I think we might know in future ASOIAF books, otherwise, it's just side information with little relevance (remember that no everybody buys the books and it shouldn't be an obligation). "drink from the cup of ice . . . drink from the cup of fire . . . " - The Undying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonCon's Red Beard Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 "drink from the cup of ice . . . drink from the cup of fire . . . " - The Undying wow wow wow wow wow wow... yes! hah. HAH. HAH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhaenys_Targaryen Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 I don't remember which book Egg mentions it in, but I always had the impression that the betrothal to Daella was already a thing of the past when he mentioned it (209-212 AC). That's the Sworn Sword, and Egg simply tells Dunk that Rhae had put a love potion in his drink once, but he had spit it out, so it didn't work. He says her motivation was so that Egg would marry her instead of Daella. Personally, I see no indication in this as to whether the engagement is still in place at that point in time.. Could be, could also not be.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manderstark Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 So, assuming these infos, which houses have or could have a claim to the throne? MartellTarthVelaryonPenrosePlummHightowerCorbrayManwoody and Baratheon of course. Through these houses is also possible that royal blood has spreaded in a lot more houses, but these seems to have the better claims. Have I forgotten other? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AryaNymeriaVisenya Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 So, assuming these infos, which houses have or could have a claim to the throne? Martell Tarth Velaryon Penrose Plumm Hightower Corbray Manwoody and Baratheon of course. Through these houses is also possible that royal blood has spreaded in a lot more houses, but these seems to have the better claims. Have I forgotten other? You're getting into badness there. Lets call it a claim to the 'Targ inheritance'. It avoids the arguments about claim by arms, whether Robert ruled by conquest making the Targ claim invalid and whether the Iron Throne should even exist in the end, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manderstark Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 You're getting into badness there. Lets call it a claim to the 'Targ inheritance'. It avoids the arguments about claim by arms, whether Robert ruled by conquest making the Targ claim invalid and whether the Iron Throne should even exist in the end, Of course. It was just speculation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel Green Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 So, assuming these infos, which houses have or could have a claim to the throne? Martell Tarth Velaryon Penrose Plumm Hightower Corbray Manwoody and Baratheon of course. Through these houses is also possible that royal blood has spreaded in a lot more houses, but these seems to have the better claims. Have I forgotten other? The Corbray and Manwoody marriages don't appear to have produced children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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