Mrs.Grumpy Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 Alyssa Velaryon was such a badass bitter bytch that I love her. I'm sure we will hear more about her in Fire and Blood (hopefully). She is my queen :bowdown: Johanna Westerling was a great woman too. She is what Cersei should have been. I felt bad for Rhaenys if it's true that she died under mass torture. Visenya is %1000 badass. She's kinda evil but somehow fascinating at the same time. Can't say I like her as much as I did before reading TWOIAF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaston de Foix Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 I ended up both liking and feeling terribly sorry for Rhaenys Targaryen. She seems like a true forerunner of Good Queen Alsyanne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shierashiera Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 Lady Johanna Lannister also seems to have socked it to the Iron Born a bit as well. Although not with the same kind of sass as Agnes. Tess started it and Lady Lannister finished it The moment I saw the title of this thread, the first name that came into my mind was Johanna Lannister. Obviously Vic wasn't told about what Lady Johanna did to his ancestor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guard of the Rainking Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 Visenya. Good lord! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naseridrl Posted November 3, 2014 Author Share Posted November 3, 2014 Xanda Qo seems to have been pretty special too. A figure who united her people and an innovator in strategy and technology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramsay's Penguins Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 ^Yeah I agree. Shades of Nymeria tbh.Everyone underestimates archers... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stallion That Mounts Texas Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Visenya and Queen Alysanne hands down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearQueen87 Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 I was most surprised by Visenya, for sure. She was pretty badass. Queen Alysanne and Nymiera are definitely favorites too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yukle Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 I don't care what anyone thinks, Dany is my favourite woman. :) ETA: I keep confusing myself, I just realised this is TWOIAF thread. :P I love Good Queen Alysane. Her journey to the Night's Watch and insistence the First Night be revoked is excellently fantastic. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wmarshal Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Alysanne for defending her granddaughter's right to rule and calling Jaeherys on his shit when needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel Green Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 I was disappointed at the complete absence of women from the history of House Stark and the North (except by marriage, i.e., Black Aly). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naseridrl Posted November 3, 2014 Author Share Posted November 3, 2014 I was disappointed at the complete absence of women from the history of House Stark and the North (except by marriage, i.e., Black Aly). Everywhere else seemed to have at least something about women doing something. The only thing connected to women in the North I can remember was the Company of the Rose thing about wild men and women of the north founding it who didn't want to bend the knee to the dragons. And I don't even think that was in the North section I think it was later in the free cities part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assjfjgjsgjljljglgjfjsduar Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Meria Martell and Black Aly Blackwood (actually, pretty much every woman from House Blackwood), and Nymeria. Visenya I'm torn on. I think it's clear that she was very capable and smart and even had diplomatic skill that one might find surprising (Rhaenys was the one everyone "liked," yet she failed in Dorne whereas Visenya succeeded in the Vale and Cracklaw Point). However I also get the impression that it was due to her influence that Maegor ended up so brutal. I'm meh on Rhaenys. Yeah, she probably died awfully, but it was no worse than what the Targs would have to the Dornish if they'd succeeded. If the Targs are "badass" for subjugating people, the Martells are badass for successfully standing up to the would-be oppressors. She got what was coming to her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seaworth'sShipmate Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Lollys Stokeworth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonCon's Red Beard Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Meria Martell and Black Aly Blackwood, and Nymeria. Visenya I'm torn on. I think it's clear that she was very capable and smart and even had diplomatic skill that one might find surprising (Rhaenys was the one everyone "liked," yet she failed in Dorne whereas Visenya succeeded in the Vale and Cracklaw Point). However I also get the impression that it was due to her influence that Maegor ended up so brutal. Something similar could be said of Aenys who started like a weak baby. Maybe Rhaenys spoiled him too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teej6 Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Nymeria, Black Aly Blackwood and Alysanne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nictarion Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Rhaenyra. Such a tragic and interesting character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanF Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Alyssa Velaryon was such a badass bitter bytch that I love her. I'm sure we will hear more about her in Fire and Blood (hopefully). She is my queen :bowdown: Johanna Westerling was a great woman too. She is what Cersei should have been. I felt bad for Rhaenys if it's true that she died under mass torture. Visenya is %1000 badass. She's kinda evil but somehow fascinating at the same time. Can't say I like her as much as I did before reading TWOIAF.Visenya was the most capable of the three. She saved the dynasty, although Maegor was a monster.I hadn't realised Rhaenys was tortured to death, which is pretty disturbing (I've not had the chance to read the book in detail). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyoshi Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 I've not had the chance to read the book at all. :crying: Postal workers on a nation-wide strike. Will have to actually buy it at a bookstore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naseridrl Posted November 3, 2014 Author Share Posted November 3, 2014 One thing I found quite amusing is that Dany is quite a rare being in Westeros as a woman with power/Queen. But in the east where she is/has been/is going she isn't really. The East seems to have many more female with power or legends of women Fisher Queens etc. Maybe if she took the time to listen to stories and legends from there she might learn some things. Women seem to have fought in wars a heck of a lot more in Essos as well and its acknowledged not rumoured or whispered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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