Larry of the Lawn Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Callan next time someone asks abiut Jason you should say "that's Anasurimbor Jason to you" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sci-2 Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 You can describe a painting by saying "it's a blonde haired dude!" but that doesn't mean that that's all the painting amounts to. The chances that your blonde haired dude looks very similar to my blonde haired dude that we'd think them related are still not very high. Unless you have problems distinguishing blonde haired dudes from each other, which I generally don't. Even hot ones. You think a lot of art survived for 1,000+ years post-Apocalypse? I'm thinking it's more like the Aztecs "recognizing" Cortez was Quetzacoatl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
generic Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 You think a lot of art survived for 1,000+ years post-Apocalypse? I'm thinking it's more like the Aztecs "recognizing" Cortez was Quetzacoatl. The Mandate know exactly how everyone looked like though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callan S. Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 So you're saying you've been approached time travelers that knew your ancient ancestor Jason? That's awesome. You don't? Well, uh...I don't want to show you up as lacking here...but some of us... >:) Besides, I don't know how to pronounce 'Anasurimbor'! Social Justice Aurax, How did 'can someone from 2000 years ago look like someone today' suddenly have the whole dreams requirement added to it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hello World Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 How did 'can someone from 2000 years ago look like someone today' suddenly have the whole dreams requirement added to it? Well, that question wasn’t asked in a vacuum. It’s because of the dreams that Achamian thinks Kellhus looks like Celmomas/NC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Seswatha Jordan Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Yea I was thinking about this. Throughout the whole series we have only a hand full of people that could possibly know Kellhus looks like Celmommas/NC. Akka or any Mandate schoolmen (which I can't remember Kellhus encountering any other besides Akka on screen.), Nil'gaccas, or whoever's soul is trapped in the Synthese. Oh, and Mek said he looked familiar, yet he's with the Consult. Someone stated how everyone thought Kellhus looked like Celmommas/NC, I can only remember it being mentioned twice, Akka and Mek.I think Kellhus is definitely a Anasurimbor, wether a bastard line or true blood line, doesn't matter. And the Dunyain breeding program kept the genes as pure as they could. And you can't discount @Sci's theory of teleogy. I mean this is a fantasy and everything don't have to make sense in our minds. It serves the story so therefore it just is what it is.ETA: yet, this is all in the assumption that the Mandate dreams are 100% authentic. Who knows, there's still a lot of story left and like I said there's gonna be a huge twist somewhere. I don't think this is just a replay of the First Apocalypse just with different characters. That be too easy, and I think Bakker's gotta have some sneaky spin to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anatúrinbor Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 You think a lot of art survived for 1,000+ years post-Apocalypse? No? I don't think said paintings have anything to do with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hello World Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Now that I think about it, what if it’s all about the paintings? Maybe the answer to the No-God is to show him a painting of himself? Doesn’t the TV girl from Ring want people to make copies of her tape? What if all the NG wants is for people to make paintings of him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wise Fool Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Ever do Men, and even the No-God, desire high viewer count. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhom Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Now that I think about it, what if it’s all about the paintings? Maybe the answer to the No-God is to show him a painting of himself? Doesn’t the TV girl from Ring want people to make copies of her tape? What if all the NG wants is for people to make paintings of him? Maybe the No-God should have Shae paint a picture of him all oiled up and showing his volumptuous ass. "Break the Onta Nau-Cayuti." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolivar Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 I mean this is a fantasy and everything don't have to make sense in our minds. It serves the story so therefore it just is what it is.What comes before determines what comes after. I'm inclined to think this might be a goal of the breeding program, either intentionally carried out by the ruling Pragma, or subconsciously so and set in place by the founding Dunyain (or the Consult).What is the textual source that refutes Ganrelka being a younger brother of Nau-Cayuti? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hello World Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 According to the timeline, Ganrelka was born some 15 years before Nau-Cayûti, though I don’t have the books to check the references now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lokisnow Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Now that I think about it, what if it’s all about the paintings? Maybe the answer to the No-God is to show him a painting of himself? Doesn’t the TV girl from Ring want people to make copies of her tape? What if all the NG wants is for people to make paintings of him? It makes sense that the no god is facebooks like button. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Seswatha Jordan Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 What is the textual source that refutes Ganrelka being a younger brother of Nau-Cayuti?Have no idea, never made that claim.....but I believe and don't quote me, on TSA wiki it says that he's the youngest son of Celmommas.ETA: NC is youngest of Celmommas, that is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callan S. Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 You'll notice in the Seswatha (scuse any spelling mistake) dreams that characterisations become rather simplified and straightforward - at first I thought 'people must have just been like that back then in the stories history'. I eventually realised that it's a product of how Seswatha sees the world - you see the simplifications of personality in the way he saw everyone that way. Possibly Akka is, in being a prophet of the past, is figuring the subtext of Seswatha's dreams - the information he ignored, but can be pieced together by looking for the absences in what he did percieve and sketching something in there. Or Akka was just reprogrammed by Kellhus and has serious malware issues and will be showing adverts for porn sites soon enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry of the Lawn Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 It makes sense that the no god is facebooks like button. I LOLed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalbear Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 An anasurimbor will return...and let you chat with hot girls near by. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhom Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 What's it say of me that I am bitter and disappointed nobody commented on my No-God/Kim Kardashian analogy? :blushing::crying: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crowjack Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 I hate to be 'that guy', but is Bakker viewed more positively than Goodkind? There's so much meta-snark going on in these threads that I really can't get a good handle as to whether or not I should give Bakker a spin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Seswatha Jordan Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 I hate to be 'that guy', but is Bakker viewed more positively than Goodkind? There's so much meta-snark going on in these threads that I really can't get a good handle as to whether or not I should give Bakker a spin.Without a doubt give it a go. I will warn you The Prince of Nothing, is a bit of a slog unless you love Kelhuss. But, the following books get much better IMHO. Luckily you get to meet Akka right off the bat and he keeps it interesting. Its just a whole lot of how great Kelhuss is. But, its done for a reason. Just telling you this because I've heard a lot of people give up on it because of that very reason. I bought the first trilogy as a whole and I almost put them up because of it. I stuck through it and its probably the most intriguing series out there. I wish more people would give it a chance, its worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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