3CityApache Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 The Sanbrook case was again very neat hinging on everyone cracking over the pendant which was probably 1 of 500,000 bought from "argos". Although I'd rather we'd seen if Lee had confessed to the murder of the young girl as the show merely presented her POV. Then again, I think this show is "you get what you see" and therfore it was Lee. Am I missing something here? If Lee was guilty of murdering Pippa, then why on Earth did he return from France in the first place? Why was he convincing Hardy the original investigation was wrong? If it was conscience bugging him, he could simply give in and tell the truth, couldn't he? I don't get it. Unless it's Claire setting him up, as she can definitely count on the lowest sentence, not actually killing anybody herself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red snow Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 I just read the whole thread, and I don't get why, even up to last week people think that Joe didn't actually do it? They freaking showed him murdering Danny at the end of the first season - he picked him up by the throat and strangled him dead.They should change the name for season three to Britain's Worst Cop, and we can watch Hardy bumble around screwing things up all over the country. That would be awesome. Some shows do flashbacks from the POV of the person "remembering" it so it can be distorted. It was a slim chance though and would have been a "cheat". I bring it up because it relates to this point too. Am I missing something here? If Lee was guilty of murdering Pippa, then why on Earth did he return from France in the first place? Why was he convincing Hardy the original investigation was wrong? If it was conscience bugging him, he could simply give in and tell the truth, couldn't he? I don't get it. Unless it's Claire setting him up, as she can definitely count on the lowest sentence, not actually killing anybody herself. I think it would be far more plausibe if that scene was from her POV I'd rather the girl had just died as a consequence of the date-raped whisky overdose. I really don't buy that Lee did it but given what we were shown we have to take it as fact. Clare seemed far more capable considering only a scene earlier it was Lee who was against drugging the kid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedEyedGhost Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 Some shows do flashbacks from the POV of the person "remembering" it so it can be distorted. It was a slim chance though and would have been a "cheat". I bring it up because it relates to this point too. I think it would be far more plausibe if that scene was from her POV I'd rather the girl had just died as a consequence of the date-raped whisky overdose. I really don't buy that Lee did it but given what we were shown we have to take it as fact. Clare seemed far more capable considering only a scene earlier it was Lee who was against drugging the kid The difference though is that they showed Joe killing Danny, whereas with Pippa they only showed Lee holding the pillow going to "take care of her." I can understand a show wanting to do the whole unreliable narrator thing, but they can't actually show that type of act and then feasibly claim it was in his head without doing something to indicate that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddard Stark is online Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 The second series had a lot of good ideas, (the Sandbrook case, Ellie Miller's relationship with her son, the Jocelyn/Maggie romance, just the extent of Joe's cowardice but quite often the execution was poor. In my opinion the writer(s) over-indulged in sentimentality slightly in the first series, which was tolerable as other aspects of the series were so strong. But I think that indulgence went unchecked in the second series, which led to many of its problems: Much of the dialogue seemed contrived, some of the plot twists were heavy-handed and lost their impact as a result. Some of the actors (Charlotte Rampling, Meera Syal) were unconvincing or looked uncomfortable and were uncomfortable to watch. The Jocelyn/Maggie thing could have been really nice, but particularly the scene where they kiss, both actors looked so uncomfortable and the whole thing seemed forced, which was a shame as it could have been good. That said though, the photography as ever was great, as was much of the acting. Maybe it was a case of good actors doing what they could with a poor script and poor direction: some come out brilliantly, others fall flat. I'm undecided as to whether I'll watch S3. Despite S2's failings I really enjoyed it in places. I'll probably watch the first episode and take it from there. I want it to be as good as S1. but suspect the unchecked sentimentality will only worsen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddard Stark is online Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 The inconsistencies with the flashbacks, Lee's motivations, etc. are probably just really lazy writing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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