Varys' member Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 Most despicable act in the series? I'm surprised no one mentioned season 5 of the TV series. jk not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damon_Tor Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 The most horrible act in the series is the Doom of Valyria; we have reason to believe it was done deliberately. The act destroyed thousands (millions?) of lives, wiped a number of species off the face of the planet while critically endangering others, destroyed thousands of years of art and culture, not to mention technologies and innovations. And to top it all off, the Doom is likely responsible for the return of the Others and the Long Winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordi Nietos Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Wrong thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nastydream Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 We don't know that the crucified "great masters" were anything besides slaves wrapped up in tokars. Maybe maybe not. Second we don't know that the crucified children were innocent. Slaves have a monetary value so it seems likely that the great masters would stake up the criminals first. So we don't know that the "great masters" were guilty or that the "slaves" were innocent. I'm still not convinced that it matters.In the words of the one true king of Westeros, "A good act does not wash out the bad, nor a bad act the good. Each should have its own reward." Holy shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiggy4Real Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Tysha's rapeLollys' rapeJeyne Poole's "marriage"The one girl that joined the Night's WatchDonella HornwoodBlood and CheeseJaeheara (sp?) Targaryen (wife of Aegon III)Elia Martell and her childrenCleon the ButcherLeila LannisterThe flooding of CastemereThe killing of Robert's bastard children (especially Barra)Rhaenyra TargaryenTheon Greyjoy becoming ReekGregor Clegane's existenceRamsay Bolton's existence Caster's wives The whole Dance of Dragons when you think about it The 163 slave childrenDaenerys' weddingThe Bloody Mummers' existence There's many more, but I can't think of anything else. Edit: Shae's death Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Pride Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 Nobodies mentioned bran being thrown from the window by Jaime.Throwing kids out of windows is a misdemeanor in Westeros. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Pride Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 There is no human element or cruelty but Tywin melting down Ice to make swords for his family really bothered me a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vivianne Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 And one of my personal favourites: Cersei's treatment of Falyse.I was waiting for this..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeIAF Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Along those mentioned : Ned killing Lady ... was very hard to take for me. Also Arya throwing rocks at Nymeria. Greywind death was kind of expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
draft0 Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 This is an amazing thread. Let's see, what else? The Hound mowing down Mycah. Robert ordering Dany's assassination. LF trying to marry Sansa in AGOT (creepiest thing in the entire series). The Tickler. Theon threatening to hang Beth Cassel. Roose Bolton locking Pretty Pia in the stocks at Harrenhal. Euron on the Shield Islands. Qyburn torturer. Shavepate torturer. Victarion sacrificing an entire ship of helpless slaves. Aerion Brightflame (speculation). Rhaegar running off with Lyanna, leading to Robert's Rebellion. Daeron I invading Dorne. Aegon I invading Dorne. Also, whatever happened to Rhaenys. Whatever happened at Summerhall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melisandre's White Pubes Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 We don't know why Qyburn needs living women for his experiments or what he is doing to them that "exhausts" them and requires frequent replacement, but I think that is probably going to be one of the top atrocities if we ever find out. The mass crucifixions in Slaver Bay are pretty far up the list of atrocities too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShaggyCat Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 I disagree about bloodraven killing aenys blackfyre, not after suffering through a brutal civil war. I don't think it's bad to capture and kill someone who's going to plague the land with warfare unless his ambitions are realised. Sure it's impolite but getting your head swiftly cut off is hardly the most brutal way to die. What Is the short end to one man in comparison to the suffering of many. Not offering a moral or ethical opinion to your view there, but a legal one. Perfidy, or falsely using a recognised protected sign in warfare to gain the enemy's confidence only to turn on them, is one of the gravest breaches of the law of armed conflict. Repeated over and over again in military codes and customary international law, right down to the modern Geneva Conventions and Additional Protocols. So what Bloodraven did was totally unlawful: he used a flag of peace to encourage an enemy to come to King's Landing, only to have Aenys executed. Did the ends justify the means? That's not the point I'm making. The point I'm making is that regardless of whatever assessment you make of ends v means, what Bloodraven did was unlawful. (Admittedly by real world legal standards!) So was Egg right to exile Bloodraven to the Wall? Yes. Was what Bloodraven did pragmatic and justifiable under a brutal logic? Also yes. As for the topic of the thread... there's a lot of really bad shit in these books! I think the most treacherous and vile though is Tywin wiping out those two houses from the westerlands - the original Rains (Reynes) of Castermere (Caster). And then he virtually repeated the tactic at the Red Wedding. And got away with it both times with clean hands. We don't know why Qyburn needs living women for his experiments or what he is doing to them that "exhausts" them and requires frequent replacement, but I think that is probably going to be one of the top atrocities if we ever find out. Ah yeah. That, if and when we ever find out the truth, will probably top my distaste for the Rains of Castermere! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Stark Wolfmen Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 Maybe they aren't the most despicable, but they shocked me more than others- Tysha- "Don't make me rue the day I raped your mother"- Brandon Stark and Rickard Stark's deaths- Jeyne Poole in Winterfell.- Red Wedding- Rains of Castamere. I thought it was "okay" when I read it on ASOIAF, but then when I read TWOIAF...- Elia, Aegon and Visenya's fate- Jaime Lannister threatening to kill Edmure's baby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiggy4Real Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 Somebody said the Doom of Valyria, so I will raise you Hardhomes I and II, plus the Rhoynar and a few other Essosi nations that are now extinct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The other prince Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 Not offering a moral or ethical opinion to your view there, but a legal one. Perfidy, or falsely using a recognised protected sign in warfare to gain the enemy's confidence only to turn on them, is one of the gravest breaches of the law of armed conflict. Repeated over and over again in military codes and customary international law, right down to the modern Geneva Conventions and Additional Protocols. So what Bloodraven did was totally unlawful: he used a flag of peace to encourage an enemy to come to King's Landing, only to have Aenys executed. Did the ends justify the means? That's not the point I'm making. The point I'm making is that regardless of whatever assessment you make of ends v means, what Bloodraven did was unlawful. (Admittedly by real world legal standards!) Yes but unlawful does not equate to horrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varamyr Sevenskins Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Ramsays treatment of "Arya". Red wedding everything. Varamyrs' attempt to cheat his true death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paxter Redwyne Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 what Hagon Heartless did do his mother and brother, also poor maelor torn apart for stupid prize Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Wraith Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Poor Danny Flint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muttwarger Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 What Qyburn is doing in the black cells (for which Cersei is also accountable). The ravaging of the Riverlands by Tywin Lannisters army (including Amory Lorch, Ser Gregor, the tickler and the Bloody Mummers). The murders of the Harpy's Sons (including mutilations and rapes). I'd have to agree that the Dothraki have few, if any, redeeming characteristics (perhaps think of them as "radical environmentalists"?!?). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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