Onime Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 I understand the reasons why almost everyone likes them, but I found/find them (with exception of Jon Snow) extremely boring/annoying. Ned: This guy lived in a "black and white"-world. You're good as long as you're honorable, but if you do something "unhonorable" no matter what reasons you had you're bad. Robb: A teenage boy who acted so "honorable", but when he saw two pretty eyes he forgot all his oaths. Sansa (pre-AFfC): Annoying, superficial teenager. Arya: How can someone like this annoying little psycho assassin? Bran: His POV's are terrible... is that a valid reason? Rickon: What the fuck is a Rickon?! What's your opinion? Please don't get offensive just because I don't like these guys. :ack: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raving Stark the Mad Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Who DO you like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Lannister Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 I find your reasoning lacks very much depth but whatever, it's your opinion. Though I'm not sure why you've made it through five novels, and then joined a message board, when you dislike a majority of the main characters. Though the idea of opening what amounts to a bashing thread then asking people not to get offensive is like waving a red flag in front of a bull and asking it not to charge at you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onime Posted November 29, 2014 Author Share Posted November 29, 2014 Who DO you like? Mhm... LF, Tywin and Roose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueOrFalse Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 You're not alone. I don't like them either, apart from Sansa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onime Posted November 29, 2014 Author Share Posted November 29, 2014 Well, she grows on me since she is starting to see the world as it real is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonCon's Red Beard Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Mhm... LF, Tywin and Roose. Why do you like them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salafi Stannis Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Ned was written to be liked and was a protagonist, GRRM intended for you to like him, he's literally the good guy in the story, if you dislike him, you're reading it wrong. Your reasons for Bran and Rickon are okay I suppose, as long as you don't mean you dislike them as people, because there's nothing wrong with disliking them because they're uninteresting, but there is with saying you dislike them as people, as neither of them have any reason to be disliked as people. I see were you're coming from with Sansa, Arya and Robb, however I do still disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raving Stark the Mad Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Mhm... LF, Tywin and Roose. ::sigh:: Why? You'd rather be friends with them? Over a Stark? Who you want marrying your daughter? Your son? You'd rather serve Roose then Ned Stark or Robb Stark? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight Of Winter Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Just a quick response: Ned - I think you completely misread. He has quite a history of doing unhonourable things in the name of love, friendship or other greater causes. He commited high treason by sheltering Jon, he changed wordings of Robert's will to avoid hurting his friend, he sympathizes with Cersei and her desire to protect her kids, he falsely confesses to save Sansa's life. Arya - maybe, just maybe because lots of people see layers and layers of depths in her beyond "little psycho assassin" ? Robb - after criticizing Ned for being too rigid on honour, here you criticize Robb for not being too rigid and breaking one oath. But yeah, generally, there's a lot more depth and "interesting-ness" to Starks that what I think you give them credit for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee-Sensei Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 I wouldn't say that the characters listed are the majority of main characters. Ned died in the first book, Robb was "off screne" for a long time and Rickons Rickon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onime Posted November 29, 2014 Author Share Posted November 29, 2014 ::sigh:: Why? You'd rather be friends with them? Over a Stark? Who you want marrying your daughter? Your son? You'd rather serve Roose then Ned Stark or Robb Stark? I've always been very cynical. To do stupid things just because they're honorable would hurt me. :D Btw; Tywin is a great lord as long as you're useful and loyal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Tommen Baratheon Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Mhm... LF, Tywin and Roose.I agree with the LF and Tywin, but Roose? He is even more one dimensional than you seem to think most of the Starks are. Tywin, like Ned also has a pretty black and white view, although for him it's "You're good as long as you are a Lannister who isn't Tyrion, but if you aren't a Lannister, for whatever reason, you are bad" Just a quick response: Ned - I think you completely misread. He has quite a history of doing unhonourable things in the name of love, friendship or other greater causes. He commited high treason by sheltering Jon, he changed wordings of Robert's will to avoid hurting his friend, he sympathizes with Cersei and her desire to protect her kids, he falsely confesses to save Sansa's life. Arya - maybe, just maybe because lots of people see layers and layers of depths in her beyond "little psycho assassin" ? Robb - after criticizing Ned for being too rigid on honour, here you criticize Robb for not being too rigid and breaking one oath. But yeah, generally, there's a lot more depth and "interesting-ness" to Starks that what I think you give them credit for. :agree: To add on a little bit though;As for Sansa, her story is one of her transformation AWAY from what you (OP) dislike, to more of a LF type characterIn regards to Bran; not much I can say in his defense.Rickon is just plain awesome, but I guess we don't have enough info to make an actual legitimate judgement on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onime Posted November 29, 2014 Author Share Posted November 29, 2014 Well I said Pre-AFfC Sansa. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Tommen Baratheon Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Well I said Pre-AFfC Sansa. ;) Oops true. I didn't really like her as a character pre-affc, but since her chapters were one of the few that actually took place in KL, I did enjoy them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueOrFalse Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Though I'm not sure why you've made it through five novels, and then joined a message board, when you dislike a majority of the main characters. I don't think you have to like the Starks to enjoy the books though? Not liking them has never stopped me from loving the books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaimetheConciliator Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Do you dislike them as people or do you dislike them for the sake of your own entertainment as a reader? If it's the latter, I can understand. But I think Ned, and by extension, most of his family, is doing the right thing, even if some of the choices made look terribly naive. I don't agree that just because a fight can't be won it isn't worth fighting. 4 Starks and 1 Snow are still alive, so it's pretty likely Ned's boyscout morality will be the deciding factor at the end of it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of Vaes Tolorro Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Mhm... LF, Tywin and Roose. I would offend you and your intelligence, but apparently we can't tell the truth about people on this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordQorgyle Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 I like Rickon and Arya and a little bit of Ned...The others i don't give a crap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sj4iy Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Well, you don't HAVE to like them. It would just seem to make reading the books tedious when you don't like most of the main characters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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