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One more example occurs in AFFC, where Jaime orders to double the guard on Jeyne Westerling while she's being escorted somewhere (IIRC - Casterly Rock), and proclaiming her twice as dangerous as Edmure if she's carrying Robb's child. So Jaime has no problem with one potentially pregnant woman traveling, which shows that at least, the idea of women traveling while pregnant is not that unusual / unheard of.


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Possible that Aegon and Dany have a wedding pack similiar to Viserys and Arianne?


I wonder if thats the Cheesemongers back-back-to-back up plan haha



i doubt it since Jon hasnt mentioned in his chapters and he would for sure be the one to know since he is waging a war campaign side by side with Aegon.



worth a quick thought


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Is sex ever referred as "sex" in books? When Jaime dreams about his hand and says "it's better than sex". But that only. I ask because I've had already notice that in my spanish translation, "sex(o)" is used when originally it meant something else. And then, re-reading that chapter of Jaime, I saw the word.



(eg, "Joffrey's initiation into manhood -> Joffrey's initiation in pleasure of sex" //


"My bride was a whore Jaime had hired to give me my first taste of manhood" -> "...my first taste of sex")

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Possible that Aegon and Dany have a wedding pack similiar to Viserys and Arianne?

I wonder if thats the Cheesemongers back-back-to-back up plan haha

i doubt it since Jon hasnt mentioned in his chapters and he would for sure be the one to know since he is waging a war campaign side by side with Aegon.

worth a quick thought

Quick thought: Aegon died 8 months and two weeks before Dany was born.

fAegon was kept a secret all through his younggriff life.Cannot have made a marriage pact without tellin anyone (whom? King Viserys? Bad idea...)

Not possible then.

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Possible that Aegon and Dany have a wedding pack similiar to Viserys and Arianne?

I wonder if thats the Cheesemongers back-back-to-back up plan haha

i doubt it since Jon hasnt mentioned in his chapters and he would for sure be the one to know since he is waging a war campaign side by side with Aegon.

worth a quick thought

If Illyrio were involved in such a plot, he never would've let Dany marry Drogo, would he?

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Possible that Aegon and Dany have a wedding pack similiar to Viserys and Arianne?

I wonder if thats the Cheesemongers back-back-to-back up plan haha

i doubt it since Jon hasnt mentioned in his chapters and he would for sure be the one to know since he is waging a war campaign side by side with Aegon.

worth a quick thought

As has been said, if Illyrio was involved, Dany would never have married Drogo. Also, one can wonder why Ser Willem would allow for Rhaegars son to be fostered away from him..

Illyrio tells that Dany was never supposed to survive the Dothraki, and it would seem that her survival, combined with the birth of the dragons, was a surprise, something unexpected. You don't make wedding pacts when you are trying to keep still that someone (Aegon) has survived, and when you are planing to sacrifice the other (Dany).

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Is sex ever referred as "sex" in books? When Jaime dreams about his hand and says "it's better than sex". But that only. I ask because I've had already notice that in my spanish translation, "sex(o)" is used when originally it meant something else. And then, re-reading that chapter of Jaime, I saw the word.

The only other occurence I've found is this one, from Feast 29 :

The Crow's Eye had taken Lord Hewett's bedchamber along with his bastard daughter. When he entered, the girl was sprawled naked on the bed, snoring softly. Euron stood by the window, drinking from a silver cup. He wore the sable cloak he took from Blacktyde, his red leather eye patch, and nothing else. "When I was a boy, I dreamt that I could fly," he announced. "When I woke, I couldn't or so the maester said. But what if he lied?"

Victarion could smell the sea through the open window, though the room stank of wine and blood and sex. The cold salt air helped to clear his head. "What do yo mean?"

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Possible that Aegon and Dany have a wedding pack similiar to Viserys and Arianne?

I wonder if thats the Cheesemongers back-back-to-back up plan haha

i doubt it since Jon hasnt mentioned in his chapters and he would for sure be the one to know since he is waging a war campaign side by side with Aegon.

worth a quick thought

Not possible since Illyrio arranged Daenerys's wedding to Drogo.
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Is sex ever referred as "sex" in books? When Jaime dreams about his hand and says "it's better than sex". But that only. I ask because I've had already notice that in my spanish translation, "sex(o)" is used when originally it meant something else. And then, re-reading that chapter of Jaime, I saw the word.

(eg, "Joffrey's initiation into manhood -> Joffrey's initiation in pleasure of sex" //

"My bride was a whore Jaime had hired to give me my first taste of manhood" -> "...my first taste of sex")

Lost in translation...
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As has been said, if Illyrio was involved, Dany would never have married Drogo. Also, one can wonder why Ser Willem would allow for Rhaegars son to be fostered away from him..

Illyrio tells that Dany was never supposed to survive the Dothraki, and it would seem that her survival, combined with the birth of the dragons, was a surprise, something unexpected. You don't make wedding pacts when you are trying to keep still that someone (Aegon) has survived, and when you are planing to sacrifice the other (Dany).

He never said any such thing...

The fat man grew pensive. "Daenerys was half a child when she came to me, yet fairer even than my second wife, so lovely I was tempted to claim her for myself. Such a fearful, furtive thing, however, I knew I should get no joy from coupling with her. Instead I summoned a bed-warmer and fucked her vigorously until the madness passed. If truth be told, I did not think Daenerys would survive for long amongst the horselords."

Tyrion II, Dance

By itself the last sentence could be interpreted the way you have interpreted it, or that he realized this after coming to know her. However, in context with the rest of the paragraph, the latter interpretation is clearly implied.

Whether you believe that cockamamie plan to use Drogo bait or whether you believe Illyrio more sensibly wanted a khalasar under the nominal command of Aegon's "uncle" Viserys, Illyrio wanted to use Daenerys to secure Drogo's participation or support. Whether Daenerys lived or died after providing Drogo with an heir was not important to Illyrio, but he did not purposely send either Viserys or Daenerys off to die.

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Is there anything the new book that nails down the timing of the Kingswood Brotherhood?

For some context, as to if Rhaegar and Elia had been married or not by that time.

If you mean World of Ice and Fire, then no - it doesn't deal with Knigswood outlaws.

However, I found this passage on wiki:

At the age of fifteen, Jaime participated in the campaign against the Kingswood Brotherhood, during which he saved Lord Crakehall from Big Belly Ben and crossed swords with the psychotic Smiling Knight. He was knighted on the battlefield by Ser Arthur Dayne.[10]

which places fight against outlaws in Jaime's 15th year (281 AC).As for R's and E's marriage, this page concludes that it happened in 280 AC.

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