Mychel_Redfort Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 I'm not sure neither what I should search. Could you quote what the AWOIAF says about this trail ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Leftwich Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Are there any instances of pregnant women traveling? Dany, of course, but others? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liaraeyne Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Did Catelyn travel to Winterfell right after she and Ned married? If yes, then ^yes, she was pregnant with Robb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consigliere Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Robb was born at Riverrun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giant of Tarth Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Are there any instances of pregnant women traveling? Dany, of course, but others?Rhaegar was born at Summerhall, so Rhaella traveled pregnant. Twice if you count the flight from KL to Dragonstone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight Of Winter Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 One more example occurs in AFFC, where Jaime orders to double the guard on Jeyne Westerling while she's being escorted somewhere (IIRC - Casterly Rock), and proclaiming her twice as dangerous as Edmure if she's carrying Robb's child. So Jaime has no problem with one potentially pregnant woman traveling, which shows that at least, the idea of women traveling while pregnant is not that unusual / unheard of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhaenys_Targaryen Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Are there any instances of pregnant women traveling? Dany, of course, but others? Dalla.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Leftwich Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Thanks for pregnancy answers. Curious if the parties involved are very cautious when transporting pregnant women, when it is known that they are pregnant or at advanced stages of pregnancy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaesterFredson Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Possible that Aegon and Dany have a wedding pack similiar to Viserys and Arianne?I wonder if thats the Cheesemongers back-back-to-back up plan haha i doubt it since Jon hasnt mentioned in his chapters and he would for sure be the one to know since he is waging a war campaign side by side with Aegon. worth a quick thought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonCon's Red Beard Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Is sex ever referred as "sex" in books? When Jaime dreams about his hand and says "it's better than sex". But that only. I ask because I've had already notice that in my spanish translation, "sex(o)" is used when originally it meant something else. And then, re-reading that chapter of Jaime, I saw the word. (eg, "Joffrey's initiation into manhood -> Joffrey's initiation in pleasure of sex" //"My bride was a whore Jaime had hired to give me my first taste of manhood" -> "...my first taste of sex") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Weirgaryen Posted December 17, 2014 Author Share Posted December 17, 2014 Possible that Aegon and Dany have a wedding pack similiar to Viserys and Arianne? I wonder if thats the Cheesemongers back-back-to-back up plan haha i doubt it since Jon hasnt mentioned in his chapters and he would for sure be the one to know since he is waging a war campaign side by side with Aegon. worth a quick thought Quick thought: Aegon died 8 months and two weeks before Dany was born. fAegon was kept a secret all through his younggriff life.Cannot have made a marriage pact without tellin anyone (whom? King Viserys? Bad idea...) Not possible then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Weirgaryen Posted December 17, 2014 Author Share Posted December 17, 2014 Is sex ever referred as "sex" in books? no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red Widow of Coldmoat Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Possible that Aegon and Dany have a wedding pack similiar to Viserys and Arianne? I wonder if thats the Cheesemongers back-back-to-back up plan haha i doubt it since Jon hasnt mentioned in his chapters and he would for sure be the one to know since he is waging a war campaign side by side with Aegon. worth a quick thought If Illyrio were involved in such a plot, he never would've let Dany marry Drogo, would he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhaenys_Targaryen Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Possible that Aegon and Dany have a wedding pack similiar to Viserys and Arianne?I wonder if thats the Cheesemongers back-back-to-back up plan haha i doubt it since Jon hasnt mentioned in his chapters and he would for sure be the one to know since he is waging a war campaign side by side with Aegon. worth a quick thoughtAs has been said, if Illyrio was involved, Dany would never have married Drogo. Also, one can wonder why Ser Willem would allow for Rhaegars son to be fostered away from him..Illyrio tells that Dany was never supposed to survive the Dothraki, and it would seem that her survival, combined with the birth of the dragons, was a surprise, something unexpected. You don't make wedding pacts when you are trying to keep still that someone (Aegon) has survived, and when you are planing to sacrifice the other (Dany). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mychel_Redfort Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Is sex ever referred as "sex" in books? When Jaime dreams about his hand and says "it's better than sex". But that only. I ask because I've had already notice that in my spanish translation, "sex(o)" is used when originally it meant something else. And then, re-reading that chapter of Jaime, I saw the word. The only other occurence I've found is this one, from Feast 29 : The Crow's Eye had taken Lord Hewett's bedchamber along with his bastard daughter. When he entered, the girl was sprawled naked on the bed, snoring softly. Euron stood by the window, drinking from a silver cup. He wore the sable cloak he took from Blacktyde, his red leather eye patch, and nothing else. "When I was a boy, I dreamt that I could fly," he announced. "When I woke, I couldn't or so the maester said. But what if he lied?" Victarion could smell the sea through the open window, though the room stank of wine and blood and sex. The cold salt air helped to clear his head. "What do yo mean?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Melnibonean Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Possible that Aegon and Dany have a wedding pack similiar to Viserys and Arianne?I wonder if thats the Cheesemongers back-back-to-back up plan haha i doubt it since Jon hasnt mentioned in his chapters and he would for sure be the one to know since he is waging a war campaign side by side with Aegon. worth a quick thoughtNot possible since Illyrio arranged Daenerys's wedding to Drogo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Melnibonean Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Is sex ever referred as "sex" in books? When Jaime dreams about his hand and says "it's better than sex". But that only. I ask because I've had already notice that in my spanish translation, "sex(o)" is used when originally it meant something else. And then, re-reading that chapter of Jaime, I saw the word. (eg, "Joffrey's initiation into manhood -> Joffrey's initiation in pleasure of sex" //"My bride was a whore Jaime had hired to give me my first taste of manhood" -> "...my first taste of sex")Lost in translation... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Melnibonean Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 As has been said, if Illyrio was involved, Dany would never have married Drogo. Also, one can wonder why Ser Willem would allow for Rhaegars son to be fostered away from him..Illyrio tells that Dany was never supposed to survive the Dothraki, and it would seem that her survival, combined with the birth of the dragons, was a surprise, something unexpected. You don't make wedding pacts when you are trying to keep still that someone (Aegon) has survived, and when you are planing to sacrifice the other (Dany).He never said any such thing...The fat man grew pensive. "Daenerys was half a child when she came to me, yet fairer even than my second wife, so lovely I was tempted to claim her for myself. Such a fearful, furtive thing, however, I knew I should get no joy from coupling with her. Instead I summoned a bed-warmer and fucked her vigorously until the madness passed. If truth be told, I did not think Daenerys would survive for long amongst the horselords."Tyrion II, DanceBy itself the last sentence could be interpreted the way you have interpreted it, or that he realized this after coming to know her. However, in context with the rest of the paragraph, the latter interpretation is clearly implied. Whether you believe that cockamamie plan to use Drogo bait or whether you believe Illyrio more sensibly wanted a khalasar under the nominal command of Aegon's "uncle" Viserys, Illyrio wanted to use Daenerys to secure Drogo's participation or support. Whether Daenerys lived or died after providing Drogo with an heir was not important to Illyrio, but he did not purposely send either Viserys or Daenerys off to die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Leftwich Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Is there anything the new book that nails down the timing of the Kingswood Brotherhood?For some context, as to if Rhaegar and Elia had been married or not by that time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight Of Winter Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Is there anything the new book that nails down the timing of the Kingswood Brotherhood? For some context, as to if Rhaegar and Elia had been married or not by that time. If you mean World of Ice and Fire, then no - it doesn't deal with Knigswood outlaws. However, I found this passage on wiki: At the age of fifteen, Jaime participated in the campaign against the Kingswood Brotherhood, during which he saved Lord Crakehall from Big Belly Ben and crossed swords with the psychotic Smiling Knight. He was knighted on the battlefield by Ser Arthur Dayne.[10] which places fight against outlaws in Jaime's 15th year (281 AC).As for R's and E's marriage, this page concludes that it happened in 280 AC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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