OurLordHand Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 I read somewhere that George RR Martin originally planned to write the entire ASOIAF series using only the ivewpoint characters from the first two books. Can anyone provide a source that confirms this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Weirgaryen Posted December 13, 2014 Author Share Posted December 13, 2014 Yes they are, but as Jon Weirgaryen pointed out in the last thread they are called the Others about six times as often as they are called White Walkers. nearly sixty times as often. 10 or so times white walkers, near 600 times the others. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purity Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 If I understood well, it is up to the Citadel to choose the Grand Maester. If it is so, why do they keep Grand Maester Pycelle who is clearly loyal to the Lannisters and, also clearly, not concerned at all with the realm? Any thoughts on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red Widow of Coldmoat Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 If I understood well, it is up to the Citadel to choose the Grand Maester. If it is so, why do they keep Grand Maester Pycelle who is clearly loyal to the Lannisters and, also clearly, not concerned at all with the realm? Any thoughts on this? A few. 1) Who's to say what agenda the Archmaesters (those who choose the Grand Maester) have. 2) Who knows how unified the Archmaesters may be in their agendas. 3) We don't know what the exact procedure would be to unmake a Grand Maester. 4) Even with Pycelle's biases and problems, how noticeable would those be to an outsider (the Archmaesters do not spend time with Pycelle at King's Landing) and 5) do those biases obstruct Pycelle's duties as Grand Maester? We simply don't know if Pycelle's negligance would be obvious to someone who is around him, how severe his negligance would need to be to merit dismissal, whether his clear irresponsibility actually conflicts with his duties as Grand Maester or whether there are those amongst the Archmaesters who would be perfectly content knowing all of Pycelle's deficiencies based on their own agendas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhaenys_Targaryen Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 Where exactly do we learn Hoster and LF's father had befriended one another during the War of the Ninepenny Kings? I seem to recall it was an SSM, but I can't find it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illuminated by Fire Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 Where exactly do we learn Hoster and LF's father had befriended one another during the War of the Ninepenny Kings? I seem to recall it was an SSM, but I can't find it.. This is the SSM link I found, fourth source on the Hoster article in the wiki, first paragraph. A question I have is about this scene, which is a bit unclear for me (ACoK, Bran chapter 3): Alebelly led two new guests into the feast. "The Lady Meera of House Reed," the rotund guardsman bellowed over the clamor. "With her brother, Jojen, of Greywater Watch." Since there are no specific information how the crannogman organize their inheritance, at least none I know of: Does anyone know if it is usual or at least not that much out of the ordinary that two children of a lord are announced that way if the brother is not of age yet and the sister is (at what age is someone of age anyway?)? Jojen is 13 at the time and Meera is 15. The scene just has me wonder if there are some unusual arrangements there or if that is completely normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renlyyy Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 Did Daeron I have a wife? if so was she a sister or from another house? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consigliere Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 Did Daeron I have a wife? if so was she a sister or from another house? He never married. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Weirgaryen Posted December 13, 2014 Author Share Posted December 13, 2014 Alebelly led two new guests into the feast. "The Lady Meera of House Reed," the rotund guardsman bellowed over the clamor. "With her brother, Jojen, of Greywater Watch." Since there are no specific information how the crannogman organize their inheritance, at least none I know of: Does anyone know if it is usual or at least not that much out of the ordinary that two children of a lord are announced that way if the brother is not of age yet and the sister is (at what age is someone of age anyway?)? Jojen is 13 at the time and Meera is 15. The scene just has me wonder if there are some unusual arrangements there or if that is completely normal. I am ignorant of the why, though not without ideas: In case they were not to be introduced as heir or heiress, it might have been prudent to name the lady first. In our world, it might even be prudent if Jojen was the heir. Meera might indeed be heir to Greywater Watch, it is in the North after all. Even if she would normally pass inheritance to a male sibling (which I doubt), Jojen having dreamt his own untimely death would have rectified that. And I had some more ideas, but look over there, that squirrel! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhaenys_Targaryen Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 This is the SSM link I found, fourth source on the Hoster article in the wiki, first paragraph. A question I have is about this scene, which is a bit unclear for me (ACoK, Bran chapter 3): Alebelly led two new guests into the feast. "The Lady Meera of House Reed," the rotund guardsman bellowed over the clamor. "With her brother, Jojen, of Greywater Watch." Since there are no specific information how the crannogman organize their inheritance, at least none I know of: Does anyone know if it is usual or at least not that much out of the ordinary that two children of a lord are announced that way if the brother is not of age yet and the sister is (at what age is someone of age anyway?)? Jojen is 13 at the time and Meera is 15. The scene just has me wonder if there are some unusual arrangements there or if that is completely normal. Thanks! I think they were just announced from eldest to youngest.. If there is a special inheritance rule for the crannogmen, we haven't heard of it. Did Daeron I have a wife? if so was she a sister or from another house? He was unmarried at the time of his death, and hadn't married before. During the four years of his reign, he had been negotiating the marriage to the sister of the Sealord of Braavos, to seal an alliance, after Dorne had been newly conquered. Nothing came of this marriage, as Daeron needed his attention to the rebelling Dorne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consigliere Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 Thanks! I think they were just announced from eldest to youngest.. If there is a special inheritance rule for the crannogmen, we haven't heard of it. I don't think there is any special inheritance rules for crannogmen. Rather Jojen's greendream about his death should be taken into account. Perhaps Meera has been named heir because of that greendream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumHam Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 If I understood well, it is up to the Citadel to choose the Grand Maester. If it is so, why do they keep Grand Maester Pycelle who is clearly loyal to the Lannisters and, also clearly, not concerned at all with the realm? Any thoughts on this? Technically only the Citadel has the power to name or un-name a Grand Maester. But it's clear in the books they're bending to the will of the throne: “Thankfully, wiser heads prevailed, and the Conclave accepted the fact of Pycelle’s dismissal and set about choosing his successor. After giving due consideration to Maester Turquin the cordwainer’s son and Maester Erreck the hedge knight’s bastard, and thereby demonstrating to their own satisfaction that ability counts for more than birth in their order, the Conclave was on the verge of sending us Maester Gormon, a Tyrell of Highgarden. When I told your lord father, he acted at once.” The Conclave met in Oldtown behind closed doors, Tyrion knew; its deliberations were supposedly a secret. So Varys has little birds in the Citadel too. “I see. So my father decided to nip the rose before it bloomed.” He had to chuckle. “Pycelle is a toad. But better a Lannister toad than a Tyrell toad, no?” “Grand Maester Pycelle has always been a good friend to your House,” Varys said sweetly. So Tywin restored him, and the Conclave felt they had no choice but to accept it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purity Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 Thanks =) I think I am still unclear of the oevrall power of the Citadel. In which way could Twyin be a threat to them? Exterminating the whole order? (On a second thought.... maybe :P) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illuminated by Fire Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 I am ignorant of the why, though not without ideas: In case they were not to be introduced as heir or heiress, it might have been prudent to name the lady first. In our world, it might even be prudent if Jojen was the heir. Meera might indeed be heir to Greywater Watch, it is in the North after all. Even if she would normally pass inheritance to a male sibling (which I doubt), Jojen having dreamt his own untimely death would have rectified that. And I had some more ideas, but look over there, that squirrel I was more wondering why she was called 'Lady Meera of House Reed' and that Jojen was just introduced as her brother than about the order. The North does not seem to have any different heritage laws, so male children come first, the female heirs we see are heirs because there are no male ones for one reason or another. She does not strike me as someone who would insist on it if laws or tradition dictate otherwise. And she would certainly not accept her brother's future death as a given. ... The squirrel bit was mean, you cannot not look! I think they were just announced from eldest to youngest.. If there is a special inheritance rule for the crannogmen, we haven't heard of it. That is probably the most likely reason. Which does bring me to another question: Is there a fixed age in Westeros at which you start to count as an adult? Fifteen and thirteen are not that far apart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight Of Winter Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 That is probably the most likely reason. Which does bring me to another question: Is there a fixed age in Westeros at which you start to count as an adult? Fifteen and thirteen are not that far apart. IIRC, it's sixteen. I can't look for quotes right now, but I remember Arianne telling Doran that she was adult for seven years already (in Arianne's last AFFC chapter after Doran said something along the line of her still being a child incapable of holding secrets). Arianne is 23 at the time. Also without a quote, but I seem to remember one sentence which says Joffrey will rule on his own right (without a Regent) when he turns 16. ETA: there's also this SSM. At what age does a boy in Westeros legally become a man? 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumHam Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 Interesting that Daeron managed to avoid a regency and that Viserys II apparently could have insisted on one. The eldest of [Aegon III's] sons, Daeron, was a mere boy of fourteen years when he assumed the throne. Perhaps because of Daeron’s charm and genius, or perhaps because of his memory of what transpired during the regency of Daeron’s father, Prince Viserys chose not to insist on a regency while the young king was in his minority. Instead, Viserys continued to serve as Hand while King Daeron ruled ably and capably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhaenys_Targaryen Posted December 13, 2014 Share Posted December 13, 2014 Legally,both men and women are "of age" when they turn 16..In terms of a girl becoming a woman, that's when she gets her first period Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhaenys_Targaryen Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 Does anyone here have experience with the app Tapatalk? Would you advice it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Weirgaryen Posted December 14, 2014 Author Share Posted December 14, 2014 Does anyone here have experience with the app Tapatalk? Would you advice it? Yes. when on android+dataplan. It works, which is much to be said for smartphone apps. Is there an alternative? ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluetiger Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 It's good when you are on smartphone/tablet. But I don't like new update Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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