Jon Weirgaryen Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 Small Questions threads of the past:A Thread for Small Questions 08-02-09 (ISO8601 thread start YY-MM-DD) A Thread for Small Questions II 09-12-27A Thread for Small Questions III 10-05-19A Thread for Small Questions IV 10-09-01A Thread for Small Questions V 10-11-22A Thread for Small Questions VI 11-02-10A Thread for Small Questions VII 11-04-11A Thread for Small Questions VIII 11-05-19A Thread for Small Questions IX 11-06-13A Thread for Small Questions X 11-07-01A Thread for Small Questions XI 11-07-28[ADWD SPOILERS] Small Questions (ADwD I) 11-07-31Small Questions on ADwD II (ADwD II) 11-08-24Small Questions XII 11-10-10A Thread for Small Questions XII 11-10-10Small Questions for ADwD III (ADwD III) 11-11-11A Thread for Small Questions XIII 11-12-13A Thread for Small Questions XIV 12-02-04Small Questions for ADwD IV (ADwD IV) 12-03-09A Thread for Small Questions XV 12-03-11A Thread for Small Questions XVI 12-04-09A Thread for Small Questions XVII 12-05-01A Thread for Small Questions XVIII 12-05-29A Thread for Small Questions XIX 12-06-23A Thread for Small Questions XX 12-07-15A Thread for Small Questions XXI 12-08-01The thread for small questions, version XXI 12-08-01Thread for Small Questions v. xxii 12-08-14Again With the Small Questions 12-09-04More Small Questions, Really? 12-10-12This Small Question Thing 12-11-06Small Questions v.10000 (1000 zero) 13-01-01Small Questions v.10001 (1000 one) 13-01-20Small Questions v.10002 (1000 two) 13-02-01Small Questions for ADwD, v.V. (ADwD V) 13-02-10 still runningSmall Questions v.10003 (1000 three) 12-02-25Small Questions v.10004 (1000 four)Small Questions v.10005 (1000 five)Small Questions v.10006 (1000 six)Small Questions v.10007 (1000 seven)Small Questions v.10008 (1000 eight)Small Questions v.10009 (1000 nine)Small Questions v.10010 (100 ten)Small Questions v.10011 (100 eleven)Small Questions v.10012 (100 twelve){version number jumps one for obscure reasons}Small Questions v.10014 (100 fourteen)Small Questions v.10015 (100 fifteen)Small Questions v.10016 (100 sixteen)Small Questions v.10017 (100 seventeen)Small Questions v.10018 (100 eightteen)Small Questions v.10019 (100 nineteen)Small Questions v.10020 (100 twenty)Small Questions v.10021 (100 twenty-One)Small Questions v.10022 (100 twenty-two)Small Questions v.10023 (100 twenty-three)Small Questions v.10024 (100 twenty-four)Small Questions v.10025 (100 twenty-five)Small Questions v.10026 (100 twenty-six)Small Questions v.10027 (100 twenty-seven){version number jumps 50 for obscure reasons}Small Questions v.10078 (100 seventy-eight)Small Questions v.10079 (100 seventy-ńine)Small Questions v.10080 (100 eighty)Small Questions v.10081 (100 eighty-one)Small Questions v.10082 (100 eighty-two)Small Questions v.10083 (100 eighty-three)Small Questions v.10084 (100 eighty-four)Small Questions v.10085 (100 eighty-five)Small Questions v.10086 (100 eighty-six)Small Questions v.10087 (100 eighty-seven)Small Questions v.10088 (100 eighty-eight)Small Questions v.10089 (100 eighty-nine)Small Questions v.10090 (100 ninety) Small Questions v.10091 (100 ninety-one) Small Questions v.10092 (100 ninety-two) Small Questions v.10093 (100 ninety-three) Carry on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wolves Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 Was Robert's Rebellion fought in winter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhaenys_Targaryen Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 Was Robert's Rebellion fought in winter? Winter, spring or summer.. We don't know exactly. Only that 282 AC started with at least a month of harsh winter weather, and that by Daenerys' birth in the 5th or 6th month of 284 AC, it was summer. We don't know exactly how long the winter weather continued in 282 AC, and how long the autumn that followed lasted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batbob45 Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 can a shadow assassin kill dragons and White Walkers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red Widow of Coldmoat Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 can a shadow assassin kill dragons and White Walkers? I don't think we know enough about how any of these things work to have any idea. It seems the assassin itself is not the only magical part of the shadow assassin, though, since for example the means by which the shadow assassin kills Renly doesn't seem to be entirely mundane (as his gorget was cut clean through) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramsay's Penguins Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 I had 2 questions, but as it happens I forgot one.I'll use an example but whom do lords obey. If Royce's go to war against Arryns, do the Coldwaters follow Royce's, or Arryns by law? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluetiger Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 I had 2 questions, but as it happens I forgot one.I'll use an example but whom do lords obey. If Royce's go to war against Arryns, do the Coldwaters follow Royce's, or Arryns by law?In feudal system they should follow their direct liege lord . However if liege lord fights against his own liege lord ... give me few minutes I'll check ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Weirgaryen Posted January 4, 2015 Author Share Posted January 4, 2015 I had 2 questions, but as it happens I forgot one.I'll use an example but whom do lords obey. If Royce's go to war against Arryns, do the Coldwaters follow Royce's, or Arryns by law? It is complicated (thesis ... conclusion): The Royces are sworn to the Arryns and Lord Coldwater likes the Arryns ... he will talk Lord Royce out of itLord Coldwater is sworn to the Royces ... they follow the Royces against the Arryns.Lord Coldwater is sworn to the Arryns ... they follow the Arryns against the Royces.Lord Coldwater is sworn to the Royces and the Arryns ... they will remain at home or follow the more powerful or the one they are more endebted to.Lord Coldwater is sworn to the Royces and the Arryns and the king -- they will follow the kings judgement on the Royce =/= Arryn conflict - but that would be difficult to obtain.Lord Coldwater has a plan of his own ... they will do the above and follow their plan. That is how I understan feudalism and ASoIaF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluetiger Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 I think they should ask king. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Weirgaryen Posted January 4, 2015 Author Share Posted January 4, 2015 I think they should ask king. Unless the matter is clear as crystal to the king - and it usually isn't, the king may take his time to answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red Widow of Coldmoat Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 I had 2 questions, but as it happens I forgot one.I'll use an example but whom do lords obey. If Royce's go to war against Arryns, do the Coldwaters follow Royce's, or Arryns by law?It seems that, generally speaking if A is sworn to B and B is sworn to C, if B and C enter into conflict, A is more likely to side with B. This isn't really universal, though. This speaks to the idea of conflicting loyalties, which is a rather underlying theme to much of the story. Oftentimes other political considerations seem to come into play, though. In one case, we see the Haighs, sworn to the Freys directly, participate in the Red Wedding. We also see Wyman Manderly boast of the other Northern houses that would side with him against the Boltons. On the other hand, we see the Vale and stormlords and riverlords who sided with the Targaryens in Robert's Rebellion, such as the Mootons and Darrys. That later case, of course, is slightly different as they sided with their king rather than simply another lord that their lord was sworn to. Another more complicated example more in line with the latter case are Houses Costayne and Mullendore during the Dance, which were sworn to the Hightowers, but sided with the Blacks rather than the Greens.So, really, there doesn't seem to be any sort of cut and dry answer. Nor should there be, I don't think, especially when considering the way that conflicting oaths and loyalties seem to be emphasized Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elia Sand Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Dp, sorry about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elia Sand Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 How quickly do ravens fly? Or, how fast do you get the message? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhaenys_Targaryen Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 How quickly do ravens fly? Or, how fast do you get the message?Depends on the raven, the weather, etc. And, of course, it depends on how quickly GRRM wants the message to reach its goal.If it helps.. it takes six nights (five days) for KL to learn that Robb defeated Stafford, on a place located three days riding from Lannisport. We don't know if the ravens were with Staffords army (though that is likely). Take out a map and compare distances a little.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramsay's Penguins Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Haha stupid feudalism! Tanks guys. My second question was this; Do the men (soldiers) of Great lords follow them to war? Or can great lords call upon their bannermen to provide men? Do Stark men (obviously some do, but not a lot) follow Robb to war, or remain behind as guards, garrisons and protecting the Stark lands? Does Robb go with Stark, Glover no did Bolton men, or just Bolton and Glover men? Ned takes Stark guards to KL, and the Tyrells do the same with their men, they accompany Olenna to the city. Baratheon and Lannister men guard the King (or queen lol) but whenever they are in the field it is the a Lannister banner flying, but Serret and Swyft men beneath it. Sons and great lords just lead men, but don't have their own men besides a personal guard? Sorry if that was complicated lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wolves Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Are all the capitals of each region the Great Houses? Ex: is the capital of the Reach Highgarden? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Does anyone know why the ravens cover the dead weirwood tree at Raventree? I mean ravens seem to have a special meaning in this story. When Sam and Gilly were in trouble, the ravens all came and filled the weirwood tree before the Other attacked. So, why would so many ravens flock to Raventree? Is there something special about its location or is there something special about that particular tree? Along the same lines, as far as I know, this is when we discover that dead weirwood trees never rot, they eventually turn into stone. So, I am wondering, is it possible that Winterfell is made from the stone of dead weirwoods? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramsay's Penguins Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Winterfell is made of grey and black stones predominantly, while weir woods petrify to be white stone. Sure there might be a few white bricks maybe, but it's not made of it mostly.Blackwoods are theorised to have skinchanging abilities, so it's not unlikely that ravens choose to roost in their tree for that reason. Also maybe green seers still live in the tree? It might be dead but they can stil see through the tree idk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aryagonnakill#2 Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 I assumed that was simply where BR chose to keep them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Weirgaryen Posted January 4, 2015 Author Share Posted January 4, 2015 That's actually two questions... Haha stupid feudalism! Tanks guys.My second question was this;Do the men (soldiers) of Great lords follow them to war? Or can great lords call upon their bannermen to provide men? The ones sworn directly to the Overlord will have to follow him into war (... unless there's a different agreement. The medieval city I live in was for example sworn not to do military service, so the lords' calling would be ignored as by the law)We see that some lords in Westeros circumvent the plight by sending sons or uncles and hiding behind reasons of being too sick to travel and such. They would take a few men, usually a promised number for times of war and a few personal bodyguard... Do Stark men (obviously some do, but not a lot) follow Robb to war, or remain behind as guards, garrisons and protecting the Stark lands? Does Robb go with Stark, Glover no did Bolton men, or just Bolton and Glover men? ...And a few troops are held back to defend the keeps and the land from whatever may threaten the peace back home. In The North we see that the crannogmen are exempt from war duty for their lord, but charged with defending the Neck. We also see, that some crannogmen join Robb's cause anyway, in search of adventure maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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