Small Questions v.10094

[Rhaenys_Targaryen]

From Game 24, after Bran has woken up :

Where do you think the raven for Catelyn was sent, knowing she's supposed to travel incognito to King's Landing ??

White Harbor perhaps.. As that's where Catelyn would find a ship, and perhaps where Luwin would expect her to return to on the way back.

[Liaraeyne]

My first thought was also White Harbour, but imagine it was sent to Kings Landing. It could have gotten in the wrong hands subsequently, which would explain why Varys knew that Catelyn was in KL.

Not a smart move from Luwin (if this is the case).

[aryagonnakill#2]

Cz99, The only info we have on that stuff comes from Varamyr. According to Varamyr he killed the man who taught him to warg, then when his trainer was inside his animal, Varamyr "killed him for real" by taking the animal over himself. He did the same with Orell, who was permanently warged into the Eagle that attacked Jon and Ghost and was burned by Melissandre. While Varamyr said he could still feel Orells hatred for Jon Snow, since Jon killed him, it was Varamyr and not Orell who was in control of the eagle.

[Lost Melnibonean]

Luwin's not that dumb. Perhaps he just told the little boy that had sent a bird to his mum. I know he's almost a man grown, but Bran's about the age of my oldest son and I am constantly telling him and the wee ones things that will placate them. Maester Luwin, can we tell mother too? Yes, Bran, I will send her a bird...

[Rhaenys_Targaryen]

My first thought was also White Harbour, but imagine it was sent to Kings Landing. It could have gotten in the wrong hands subsequently, which would explain why Varys knew that Catelyn was in KL.

Not a smart move from Luwin (if this is the case).

But to where in KL could Luwin have send it? Not even Catelyn knew where she was going to stay in KL until she had arrived in the city. And by the time Bran wakes, Ned is already in KL, and Luwin would most likely have thought that Catelyn would be already on her way back. Or she already was on her way back, I'd have to check my notes. If Luwin had thought that Catelyn had still been in KL, he would have only needed to send a letter to Ned, because Ned could tell Catelyn (or show her the letter). If Luwin believed at the time of sending the messages that both Ned and Cat were in KL, he would have send only one.

[Lost Melnibonean]

Yes... that's one of these tropes.

Oh heck, she cries even before that--when she confesses.

[Lost Melnibonean]

Are wights ever described as "shambling?"

[RumHam]

Are wights ever described as "shambling?"

For all the heat and smoke in Craster’s hall, Sam felt cold himself. And tired, so tired. He needed sleep, but whenever he closed his eyes he dreamed of blowing snow and dead men shambling toward him with black hands and bright blue eyes.

Edit: That's all I could find

[Jon Weirgaryen]

Are wights ever described as "shambling?"

The 'prentice boys all saw it, Old Nan said, but afterward when they told their Lord Commander every description had been different. And three died within the year, and the fourth went mad, and a hundred years later when the thing had come again, the 'prentice boys were seen shambling along behind it, all in chains.

ASoS 56 Bran IV

[Lost Melnibonean]

Thanks. Brienne is described by Cersei as a shambling thing. Is the adjective used ofen by the George?

[RumHam]

ASoS 56 Bran IV

But those weren't wights right? Why would they be in chains.

I did also find this:

Snowflakes swirled from a dark sky and ashes rose to meet them, the grey and the white whirling around each other as flaming arrows arced above a wooden wall and dead things shambled

silent through the cold, beneath a great grey cliff where fires burned inside a hundred caves. Then the wind rose and the white mist came sweeping in, impossibly cold, and one by one the fires went out. Afterward only the skulls remained.

Death, thought Melisandre. The skulls are death.

Thanks. Brienne is described by Cersei as a shambling thing. Is the adjective used ofen by the George?

Thirteen times as shambling, seven shambled, one shambles. In addition to Brienne Pycelle and Dontos also shamble.

[Mychel_Redfort]

White Harbor perhaps.. As that's where Catelyn would find a ship, and perhaps where Luwin would expect her to return to on the way back.

I rejected White Harbor because the timeline has Bran wake up two months after Catelyn's departure, but you're right Luwin could have hoped she would have the message on the way back. Or maybe did he send it to Riverrun ? By the way, I couldn't find it after a quick search, do we know when in AGOT Catelyn learns that Bran has awaken or are we to assume she indeed learned about it at White Harbor ?

[Lost Melnibonean]

But those weren't wights right? Why would they be in chains.

I did also find this:

Thirteen times as shambling, seven shambled, one shambles. In addition to Brienne Pycelle and Dontos also shamble.

Hmm...

[Waho]

There's something I don't remember : how and when is it revealed that Mance was in Winterfell in AGOT?

[Mychel_Redfort]

Mance tells the story to Jon when they first meet, at the beginning of ASOS

[Bluetiger]

He told it to Jon when they met in his camp.

[Jon Weirgaryen]

There's something I don't remember : how and when is it revealed that Mance was in Winterfell in AGOT?

Mance tells the story to Jon when they first meet, at the beginning of ASOS

He told it to Jon when they met in his camp.

He tells Jon all over the chapter in ASoS 7 Jon I ... the whole story is towards the end of the chapter.

[Ser Cold Fingers]

AGoT, Chapter 19 – Jon III

Three days after their arrival, Jon had heard that Benjen Stark was to lead a half-dozen men on a ranging into the haunted forest.

Since Benjen is leading a half-dozen men...does this mean there are seven of them total?

Or is he considered one of the half-dozen men and there are only six total?

[Jon Weirgaryen]

But those weren't wights right? Why would they be in chains.

Why indeed? And what were they, if they still shambled 100 years later?

[Jon Weirgaryen]

Since Benjen is leading a half-dozen men...does this mean there are seven of them total?

Or is he considered one of the half-dozen men and there are only six total?

One and half a dozen makes seven. And seven save us all, whenever in the series a nobleman rides out with half a dozen companions, he is setting out to steal a girl.